EOI - Supercharger installation kits - now have good boost

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Post by Rob Furniss » Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:33 pm

spetz wrote: @Rob,
How do you tune the ignition timing?
Or do you just have a preset (X pounds of boost = Y degrees of retard) equation that you conform to?
Hi spetz,
For ignition timing I didn't mess with it too much, i'm going off what the tuner did on my previous FTO as I still have the map from that and used it as my base map.

It's mainly 0 but there are a few points in the map where they added a little advance in (1-2 degrees) at certain boost levels and rpms but after 7 psi it's either 0 or retarding it so -1,-2,-3 degrees (depending on boost).
I went a bit more conservative though and any 2 degrees advance I knocked down to 1.
I really need to get it on a rolling road to verify i'm not getting dett though as it's a bit risky going off a previous map without knock detection equipment.

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Post by spetz » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:10 pm

Are you able to see what the factory knock sensor is picking up?

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Post by Rob Furniss » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:29 pm

No but I presume if it was knocking the stock ecu would retard it a little (well i'd hope so).

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Post by Taiwo » Sun Jul 30, 2017 12:57 am

I have been reading a lot about supercharger on ftos as a cheaper alternative to turbo and it unlocks some of the fto potential.

I am wondering what do everyone think of supercharger vs turbo? Can you turbo a gpx or is it better and easier with a GR
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Post by Rob Furniss » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:23 pm

Yeah you can turbo a GPX, a GR (or even GX) may be a better candidate though.
If you're handy with a welder it would help a lot.

Personally I like the supercharger route, my Son prefers turbo, and if you're chasing big power then turbo but I don't see the point in chasing big power with these cars, or I can't justify the cost but that's just me.
A modest increase in performance for a modest amount of money is where it's at for me.

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Post by Vectose » Tue Aug 01, 2017 5:20 pm

Rob Furniss wrote:Yeah you can turbo a GPX, a GR (or even GX) may be a better candidate though.
If you're handy with a welder it would help a lot.

Personally I like the supercharger route, my Son prefers turbo, and if you're chasing big power then turbo but I don't see the point in chasing big power with these cars, or I can't justify the cost but that's just me.
A modest increase in performance for a modest amount of money is where it's at for me.
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Post by bjk » Tue Aug 01, 2017 6:09 pm

I think you'd need to include labour for most people, Rob. :lol:
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Post by Supplanter » Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:39 pm

bjk wrote:I think you'd need to include labour for most people, Rob. :lol:
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Post by Vectose » Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:52 pm

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Post by mezje » Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:05 pm

Hey Rob,

If you see this I am going to have a fair bit of spare time and pretty damn good at Solidworks.

If you need help CADing anything I will be glad to help!

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Post by wa_fto_mikey » Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:50 am

So is this kit available? Or is there a realistic timeline and cost thats been put together yet?

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Post by Rob Furniss » Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:26 pm

I'm putting the details together, just moved back to Perth so got quite a bit to sort out but it won't be long - not like another couple of years.
I can order most of the bits now whenever I want but as i've moved I need to find a new fabricator for the charge coolers, going to speak with someone next week. That's the last piece of the puzzle and once I have a price off him I can put it up on here for all you lot to say WAY TO EXPENSIVE, which is fine, trying to keep costs as low as I can and if people want some bits but not all that's fine too.

Charge cooler will be the most expensive single item and you may want to go with a cheap Chinese front mount intercooler and that's up to you, once you add up all the pipes and stuff there probably won't be much in it though cost wise and you still need a cut down intake plenum welding to some tube.

Also going to get the car ready for the drags for early January to see what she'll do against those Holden and Ford dudes, have to fix the oil leak first which i've had for years or she won't pass scrutineering.


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