The impossible nuts
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The impossible nuts
So after getting the exhaust out of maverick in one piece i want to break it down and save the cat if possible, HOWEVER the bolts on either side must have literally rusted on!
I have left the f**kers sitting in WD40 overnight SATURATED in the stuff, then got the air ratchet on them and still nothing, and the impact wrench is too bulky and cannot reach them - however the wrench still torques hard and took off the y pipe bolts. Also no luck with a 1/2 drive and a BIG breaker bar on the end.
Any tricks of the trade i can do to get these off? Seems at this stage ill shear the head off before it comes loose
I have left the f**kers sitting in WD40 overnight SATURATED in the stuff, then got the air ratchet on them and still nothing, and the impact wrench is too bulky and cannot reach them - however the wrench still torques hard and took off the y pipe bolts. Also no luck with a 1/2 drive and a BIG breaker bar on the end.
Any tricks of the trade i can do to get these off? Seems at this stage ill shear the head off before it comes loose
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Re: The impossible nuts
You can try a WD40 like product called "Yield", it's sole purpose is designed to loosen rust, works awesome but not cheap.
You can also try heating the bolt/nut with an oxy torch, then attempt to undo it.
You can blow off (cut) the nut with an oxy torch and hit out the bolt or blow the bolt out.
You can also cut off the nut with an angle grinder drill out the center of the bolt, smaller drill bit than the size of the bolt and hit out the remainder with a drift and hammer, if you can't remove the remainder then you can drill out the rest of bolt with a drill bit the same size as the bolt
You can also try heating the bolt/nut with an oxy torch, then attempt to undo it.
You can blow off (cut) the nut with an oxy torch and hit out the bolt or blow the bolt out.
You can also cut off the nut with an angle grinder drill out the center of the bolt, smaller drill bit than the size of the bolt and hit out the remainder with a drift and hammer, if you can't remove the remainder then you can drill out the rest of bolt with a drill bit the same size as the bolt
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Re: The impossible nuts
i had the same ideas as Phil,
if theyre that bad like mine, and you dont want the rest of the pipe, just cut it at either end of the cat, not too hard to weld back onto another pipe,
if theyre that bad like mine, and you dont want the rest of the pipe, just cut it at either end of the cat, not too hard to weld back onto another pipe,
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Re: The impossible nuts
Hmm thanks phil ill have to try that yield stuff. I don't have a giant metal drill or tools to do the others and I don't want to sit there for an hour with a hacksaw. Hopefully ill leave on this yield overnight, come back with a hammer and flathead, shake it up and torque the sh*t out of it.
Otherwise ill see if I can get a hold of a specific rattle gun extension bar or something so it fits.
Cheers guys, ill let ya know how I get on.
Otherwise ill see if I can get a hold of a specific rattle gun extension bar or something so it fits.
Cheers guys, ill let ya know how I get on.
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Re: The impossible nuts
Take it to a mechanics or exhaust shop and ask them to crack them for some lunch money?
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Re: The impossible nuts
Cold chisel!
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Re: The impossible nuts
And a big mother hammerBennoz wrote:Cold chisel!
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Re: The impossible nuts
Matt lol its the whole pipe, can't fit it into a car.
Don't have a chisel but have a big ass flathead, and what me n matt call a 'silly hammer' lmfao, really piss weak small hammer. Will figure something out when i get home hopefully.
Don't have a chisel but have a big ass flathead, and what me n matt call a 'silly hammer' lmfao, really piss weak small hammer. Will figure something out when i get home hopefully.
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Re: The impossible nuts
try loctite freeze. it works sometime.
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Re: The impossible nuts
I've taken over 100 exhausts off and never struggled with one. It either brakes or comes off, never seized. A ratchet is good for 50nm to 100nm at best.
Jack the car up as high as you can and get the longest bar you can on your breaker bar.
I cant see it taking anywhere near 100nm to get the bolts off.
Jack the car up as high as you can and get the longest bar you can on your breaker bar.
I cant see it taking anywhere near 100nm to get the bolts off.
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Re: The impossible nuts
Yeah but you seen the size of taz?payaya wrote:I've taken over 100 exhausts off and never struggled with one. It either brakes or comes off, never seized. A ratchet is good for 50nm to 100nm at best.
Jack the car up as high as you can and get the longest bar you can on your breaker bar.
I cant see it taking anywhere near 100nm to get the bolts off.
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Re: The impossible nuts
yea yea stef lmao
But yes, ive put an impact wrench on it and an air wrench, big ol breaker bar with a metre long tube on the end, soaked in WD40 overnight and still nothing (the exhaust is out of the car on the garage floor in one piece)
Ill try that locktight stuff and if a no go then ill try a cold chisel. If that fails then ill have to spend a good hour with the hacksaw
Don't know what the previous owner did with it but its on there tight. tighter than a nuns c**t in west texas
But yes, ive put an impact wrench on it and an air wrench, big ol breaker bar with a metre long tube on the end, soaked in WD40 overnight and still nothing (the exhaust is out of the car on the garage floor in one piece)
Ill try that locktight stuff and if a no go then ill try a cold chisel. If that fails then ill have to spend a good hour with the hacksaw
Don't know what the previous owner did with it but its on there tight. tighter than a nuns c**t in west texas
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Re: The impossible nuts
How about just chuck it cos its just a sh*tty 2nd hand cat.
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Re: The impossible nuts
forget about the loctite freeze, waste of money, doesn't work on seized bolts.
Really though if you've got a breaker bar with a length of pipe on it as Papaya said, it'll either come free or break clean.
So you're just not trying hard enough
Really though if you've got a breaker bar with a length of pipe on it as Papaya said, it'll either come free or break clean.
So you're just not trying hard enough
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Re: The impossible nuts
I do have about a metre length of bar on the breaker bar, which is almost a metre in itself on it and i really am tugging hard (pun not intended) but still nothing.
It gives a little give, like a mini spring kind of action but it doesnt snap or come free
My only other option is to secure even more so somehow (had the mrs stand on it while its on the ground and i have it so when i go to undo it, it sits in place as the exhaust cant go through the ground which is its stop if that makes any sense)
Ill give it one more crack tomorrow but ill give up if i cant - and silver i cant just bin it as its a full exhaust, and i dont want to spend 45 on a trailer and then dump fees when i can (hopefully) just break it down enough to fit in the wheelie bins
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Use an angle grinder, grind the c**t off.
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Re: The impossible nuts
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As others have suggested and my advise is you'll need....
- An OXY set (LPG or Butane are not hot enough and will take ages to get the heat into it)
- A really good rattle gun (not a cheapie) and or a breaker bar 600mm min.
If you don't have a breaker bar get the largest 1/2" ratchet you've got and take it down to a scrap metal dealer, test try pieces of pipe over the end of it to give you a longer lenght.
A video of what your trying to achieve
If all else fails, Bennoz has got the right idea and I too have got so pissed off before, out comes the quickest bolt removal tool anyones has got, the angle grinder.
As others have suggested and my advise is you'll need....
- An OXY set (LPG or Butane are not hot enough and will take ages to get the heat into it)
- A really good rattle gun (not a cheapie) and or a breaker bar 600mm min.
If you don't have a breaker bar get the largest 1/2" ratchet you've got and take it down to a scrap metal dealer, test try pieces of pipe over the end of it to give you a longer lenght.
A video of what your trying to achieve
If all else fails, Bennoz has got the right idea and I too have got so pissed off before, out comes the quickest bolt removal tool anyones has got, the angle grinder.
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Re: The impossible nuts
I dont have an angle grinder otherwise i would of done that already
dont have an OXY set either - the whole point of this is to not go out and buy something ill use once or twice just for this occasion...
dont have an OXY set either - the whole point of this is to not go out and buy something ill use once or twice just for this occasion...
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Re: The impossible nuts
hmmm no OXY.... There is a way with Propane and candle wax.....
I take it you've already tryed whacking the sh*t out of it with a large hammer? (intention is to crack it)
If all else fails Bunnings sell angle grinders for $20 in Auzzie.
Is there anyone you can borrow some if not all of what you need off?
I take it you've already tryed whacking the sh*t out of it with a large hammer? (intention is to crack it)
If all else fails Bunnings sell angle grinders for $20 in Auzzie.
Is there anyone you can borrow some if not all of what you need off?
Beer, it saved the world! I'll drink to that
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Re: The impossible nuts
Taz wrote:dont have an OXY set either - the whole point of this is to not go out and buy something ill use once or twice just for this occasion...
Thought Aldi would have them up for sale by now