Speakers in rear interior panels

mr-charisma · Post by **mr-charisma** » Thu May 31, 2007 10:09 pm

Has anyone put some speakers in the indented rear interior panels? Or looked into doing it? I'm not sure what work would go into it.. does anyone have any idea?

jonowong · Post by **jonowong** » Thu May 31, 2007 10:13 pm

i got the interior panels if you want to buy em and try it out

mr-charisma · Post by **mr-charisma** » Thu May 31, 2007 10:46 pm

Hehe, it might be cheaper to try it on my panels & then buy yours if i totally screw them up

eThix · Post by **eThix** » Thu May 31, 2007 10:58 pm

OMG this is what i wanna do

i just installed rear and front speakers in my car

when you do yours you can show me how to do it

lol jono how much u selling yours for? and whats the sizes

mr-charisma · Post by **mr-charisma** » Thu May 31, 2007 11:34 pm

I may have to do some fibreglassing for it... I've never fibreglassed anything before so It will be a learning experience ... This is another one of those things that is just in the "thinking about it" stage atm... I really want to do it though, I will talk to the guy doing the installation of my alarm & speaker wiring & see if he has any ideas..

kid_dynamite · Post by **kid_dynamite** » Thu May 31, 2007 11:41 pm

Would be a lot of flex in the panels unless you did some bracing / deadening. Also not sure how much space is behind them.
I'm personally not a fan of rear speakers unless you have passengers a lot. Have read an interesting viewpoint on that, being that your ears face forward and considering the relative distance between front and rear speakers you're going to hear mainly from the front speakers.

That being said, if you were going to put some speakers in the rear, go 6.5"...

eThix · Post by **eThix** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:11 am

Yeah i wouldn't go any bigger then 6.5, i guess i will have to wait and see how Mr goes

FtoSam · Post by **FtoSam** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 12:17 pm

I dont think there would be much point sound wise.. as its only the rear stage.. Put a set of cheap 6x9s or 6.5s in the rear shelf to shut up back seaters... then chuck in as many $$ as you can for fronts..

I run a $1299 set of Boston Acoustic Pro 6.5 Splits getting 800W from a $499 Kenwood Amp.

My rears are a set of $229 soundstream 6x9 3 ways getting 50W ea from the head deck... lol... The rears barely matter. Ask any Pro car audio installer... They are only there for "fill".

Get decent front (MB Quartz, High end pioneer, Boston Acoustics) and what a solid 2 ch amp onto them. Enjoy the bliss...

If you have subs, no need for 6x9s as 6.5s will give a better sound for less.

Also if you like clarity, get a 12 inch sub.. I used to have 2x15s in mine... great to shake your head but crap for punch. Then 2x 12"s (4000Wrms) but they were built for SPL as well.. Now i have a single $180 Pioneer sub that sounds beautiful.. and as with everything.. dont skimp on $50 just to get a no-name brand.. theres a massive difference.

Sorry got a bit off topic there...

Basically, theres no need to put speakers there... but if you wanted to for fun/looks, then you'll need some bracing as KD said.There is some reasonable room behind the panels, So i'd cut the round section out and make it flat (lose the armrest) with a thinish peice of MDF. then overlay with fibreglass and possibly have the MDF bracket onto the chassis in 1-2 places.

also, try to seal the speaker. You will get better bass from it then.

eThix · Post by **eThix** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 12:20 pm

Thanks for that Sam

looks like i will be going out and buying an AMP heheh

FtoSam · Post by **FtoSam** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 12:24 pm

eThix wrote:Thanks for that Sam looks like i will be going out and buying an AMP heheh

What speakers do you have? If standard, i wouldnt bother.

When buying an amp, stick to GOOD brands... especially for fronts... its all about quality.
Pioneer is my weapon of choice, however the kenwood is still awesome.
Alpine are good too. But if anyone buys US Audio or some sh*t like that... You will bear my wrath!!!
Oh and just because kenwood make a decent amp.... they're speakers are ordinary. in the $200-600 price range the pioneers are awesome.. $600-$1100 is MB Quarts series, and the $1100 + only really leaves exotics like Boston Acoustic Pros

eThix · Post by **eThix** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 12:34 pm

I've got 6.5 pioneer(front), and 6x9 pioneer(rear) just got them installed 2 weeks ago

FtoSam · Post by **FtoSam** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 12:56 pm

Good choice matey... Great brand... Grab a pioneer 4 channel.
400Wrms would be good for them...
Either bridge the amp to 2ch and give your fronts all the power or plit it 4 ways to power your rears as well.. hope your fronts cost double your rears??

eThix · Post by **eThix** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:05 pm

I will probably split it 4 way

lol ahhhh they cost the same as my rear, there probably not the best.... but there good enough

well this gives me an idea

get new good front ones, and move my old ones to the back rear panel

mr-charisma · Post by **mr-charisma** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:12 pm

Thanks for all the juicy info Sam

I am upgrading my sound system soon, just after I get my new alarm installed, it is long overdue ...

I've noticed everyone suggesting 6x9's for the rear shelf, is there any particular reason for this?

Here is what I am thinking & prices I am getting on them;

Alpine Type S 5x7 - $100 x 3 (2 in front & either 4 on rear parcel shelf or 2 on rear shelf & 2 in the rear side panels)

Alpine Type S 12" Sub - $170 (Making custom sub box)

Cadence 500 (5 Channel Amp) - $430

Wiring - $60

Cheapo (Temporary) Kenwood MP3 HeadUnit - $99

Upgrading from head unit later on to a Samsung Q1 UMPC with a Car Mount;
Will be running; Sound System, DVD & Video, GPS, Wireless Internet, Games etc

Total without UMPC - $1059 (Doing the install & custom builds myself)

I am getting a very good price on the equipment, wanting some feedback on the 5x7's setup all round. What does everyone think?

FtoSam · Post by **FtoSam** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:24 am

Ugh... dont you dare get those speakers mate... If you wanna spend some $$ on your system, come round one day for a chat, i used to be right into this. Totally wrong way about it..
CBF writing details atm as its 2:20am, but 5x7s are pointless. 6x9s are a direct fit in the rear. 6.5s up front... save as much $$ as you can for the fronts.. they are 90% of the system. Amp the suckers... get a set of okay 6x9s for the rear fill.. if u have a spare 2 ch of amp, get some juice into them too..
Sub is a good pick.
Try and go for seperate amps. A small D-Class for the sub and a 4ch (bridgeable to 2ch) for the fronts/rears. It wont cost too much different but allows greater flexibility.

seriously need to talk in person if u wanna do it right...

msbchi · Post by **msbchi** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 1:37 am

I have to agree with you Sam, many cheap speakers don't =one good one, I'm running Orion 6.5 splits in front and 6x9s in the rear, both connected to an Orion 4004 amp and it's brilliant crystal clear sound quality and too loud to sit in the car when pumped up to full volume. The only improvement will be an Orion 4002 amp to run the 12in sub I just picked up. I'll try bridging the amp first but I like the tight bass the 6x9s put out when amped so another amp for the sub is on my wish list at the moment.