King Springs + KYB Excel G Shocks

vendall · Post by **vendall** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:55 pm

Hi guys,

I'm looking to lower my GPX and decided to go for lowering springs (King Spring) rather than coilovers due to cost and I don't want an overly stiff ride on Sydney's roads. I am also considering KYB Excel G shocks to go with the new springs. I have a few questions though:

How do the stock shocks fare with the Kings?
Do the KYBs need to be adjusted? If yes, how is this done?

If I can get a ride quality equal or better than stock by using just the new springs, then I will probably go with that until the stock shocks need replacing.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Alex.

koolio1234 · Post by **koolio1234** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:45 am

KYB-Excel G shocks with kings lowering springs are an excellent combo. Just make sure you go with a softer spring rate for comfort. Not too soft considering your going to lower it. Something about 6kg springs should do.

I think Bennoz had this exact same set in one of his fto's.

Post by **I8A4RE** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:08 am

You cant choose the spring rate of king springs and if you could 6 would be way too hard for someone who wants a comfortable ride. However as Koolio has suggested KYB with king springs will be great combo between handling and comfort.

vendall · Post by **vendall** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:38 pm

Thanks for the answers, guys. Should I go straight to KYB shocks or should I keep the stock ones until they break? Also, whats the cheapest place to get KYBs (does supercheap have them?)? I know RPW stocks them....

Cheers,
Alex.

Post by **Bennoz** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:41 pm

I would do them all in the one hit. Such a pain in the ass f*cking around with spring compressors & lining them all up.

Can get KYB's anywhere. Where abouts you based?

Heres the part numbers:
Front L: 334154
Front R: 334155
Rears: 341140

zuihoujueding · Post by **zuihoujueding** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:23 pm

Im had the king and KYB setup as well. Got my rears done 3months ago and fronts done last week. Have to say its so much comfortable now.

If you are still using stock shocks, im certain that they are already worned out.

be sure to do everything at one go and forget all about it. Besides new struts and springs, replace the bumpstops, dust covers and add spring protectors.

I got the parts from various shops but labour is pretty reasonable at wholesale suspensions.

col2560 · Post by **col2560** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:14 am

i just did my fronts a few weeks ago, got the shocks from "Pep's" at Narellan. front shocks were $165 each.

elusi0n · Post by **elusi0n** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:31 am

I've just got my set of KYB Excel-G shocks and King Springs done 2 days ago. You get get them done at Wholesale Suspension for $990.

http://www.wholesalesuspension.com.au/contact.html

You can contact them for further questions.

vendall · Post by **vendall** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:58 am

Bennoz wrote:I would do them all in the one hit. Such a pain in the ass f*cking around with spring compressors & lining them all up.

Can get KYB's anywhere. Where abouts you based?

Heres the part numbers:
Front L: 334154
Front R: 334155
Rears: 341140

Hi Bennoz. I'm live in Castle Hill. I'll take your advice and do them all at once. They arent that expensive anyways. Thanks for the part #s.

How hard is it all to install... I'll be using your guide =).

Alex.

vendall · Post by **vendall** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:00 am

zuihoujueding wrote:Im had the king and KYB setup as well. Got my rears done 3months ago and fronts done last week. Have to say its so much comfortable now.

If you are still using stock shocks, im certain that they are already worned out.

be sure to do everything at one go and forget all about it. Besides new struts and springs, replace the bumpstops, dust covers and add spring protectors.

I got the parts from various shops but labour is pretty reasonable at wholesale suspensions.

Thanks for the advice zuihou. Ill do the shocks as well. Ill probably install the parts myself so no labour =).

Post by **Bennoz** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:45 am

vendall wrote:
Bennoz wrote:I would do them all in the one hit. Such a pain in the ass f*cking around with spring compressors & lining them all up.

Can get KYB's anywhere. Where abouts you based?

Heres the part numbers:
Front L: 334154
Front R: 334155
Rears: 341140
Hi Bennoz. I'm live in Castle Hill. I'll take your advice and do them all at once. They arent that expensive anyways. Thanks for the part #s.

How hard is it all to install... I'll be using your guide =).

Alex.

Its a hell of a lot easier with a hoist, but if you gotta do them on the drive fine, it will just a take a while. Last set I swapped over was on a hoist & it took me about 2 hours give or take. On the lawn, it took me about 5 hours.

I've got a mate who runs Tubuluar suspension Systems up a Mount Kuringai who will do a full set of 4 for you for $440. His name is James, just give him a buzz & say Bennoz at FTO Aus sent you

www.tubularsuspensionsystems.com

Post by **dstocks** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:53 am

Make sure you get a wheel alignment done after you change them over though. When I fitted mine, I ended up with 26 degrees toe in on one side and 27 degrees on the other. I wore down tyres with 75% tread to basically metal in 3 days. Bit like a cheese grater really.

koolio1234 · Post by **koolio1234** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:39 am

dstocks wrote:Make sure you get a wheel alignment done after you change them over though. When I fitted mine, I ended up with 26 degrees toe in on one side and 27 degrees on the other. I wore down tyres with 75% tread to basically metal in 3 days. Bit like a cheese grater really.

yep, good advice. If you get it done by a shop, a wheel alignment is usually included anyways.

vendall · Post by **vendall** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:48 am

Bennoz wrote:
vendall wrote:
Bennoz wrote:I would do them all in the one hit. Such a pain in the ass f*cking around with spring compressors & lining them all up.

Can get KYB's anywhere. Where abouts you based?

Heres the part numbers:
Front L: 334154
Front R: 334155
Rears: 341140
Hi Bennoz. I'm live in Castle Hill. I'll take your advice and do them all at once. They arent that expensive anyways. Thanks for the part #s.

How hard is it all to install... I'll be using your guide =).

Alex.
Its a hell of a lot easier with a hoist, but if you gotta do them on the drive fine, it will just a take a while. Last set I swapped over was on a hoist & it took me about 2 hours give or take. On the lawn, it took me about 5 hours.

I've got a mate who runs Tubuluar suspension Systems up a Mount Kuringai who will do a full set of 4 for you for $440. His name is James, just give him a buzz & say Bennoz at FTO Aus sent you

www.tubularsuspensionsystems.com

Thats awesome, thanks mate. Ill give him a ring when I get back to Australia next week.

Cheers,
Alex.

vendall · Post by **vendall** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:51 am

dstocks wrote:Make sure you get a wheel alignment done after you change them over though. When I fitted mine, I ended up with 26 degrees toe in on one side and 27 degrees on the other. I wore down tyres with 75% tread to basically metal in 3 days. Bit like a cheese grater really.

Definitely. Ill see if I can get it all installed relatively cheaply (which would include alignment i presume). The 5 hours Bennoz indicated are a bit hefty.

Cheers,
Alex.

Post by **Bennoz** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 8:57 am

Yeah but I sink a lot of piss when I work on cars at home, I was half cut by the end of it which didn't help things