Toyota 86/Subaru BRZ

bass_twitch · Post by **bass_twitch** » Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:07 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_86# ... Current.29
and a gajillion other links.

I've been watching them for a while now,

I'm thinking it is the new age FTO? (with a boxer engine, RWD and made by Toyota & Subaru

),
It shares a weight of just over a tonne, looks good, and has a 2L engine putting out approx 150ish KW. Should be a fun little coupe.

I personally like them, and am looking forward to them coming out.

Astron_Boy · Post by **Astron_Boy** » Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:28 pm

highly doubt it will ever come to be.
The day of sports cars is dying.

Annoying little womens make up cars and soccer mom 4x4s are becoming the norm now.

Even the Detroit, I think motor show was filled with annoying little buzz boxes, hardly a glimmer of muscle anywhere... says something in my opinion.

bass_twitch · Post by **bass_twitch** » Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:36 pm

Astron_Boy wrote:highly doubt it will ever come to be.
The day of sports cars is dying.

Annoying little womens make up cars and soccer mom 4x4s are becoming the norm now.

Even the Detroit, I think motor show was filled with annoying little buzz boxes, hardly a glimmer of muscle anywhere... says something in my opinion.

I agree, since 2000 things have really moved away from the sports car. (much to my disgust!)
that's why I was so excited about this!
Go on the Toyota and Subaru websites and they both say coming soon. It's official, it will be launched this year and it's likely to be around 40k mark (according to rumors)

Post by **Supplanter** » Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:05 pm

Astron_Boy wrote:highly doubt it will ever come to be.
The day of sports cars is dying.

They are already in production.

Astron_Boy · Post by **Astron_Boy** » Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:36 pm

Believe it when I see one on the road.

Post by **Supplanter** » Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:39 pm

Astron_Boy wrote:Believe it when I see one on the road.

Like this one in Melbourne?

Astron_Boy · Post by **Astron_Boy** » Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:23 pm

Wow they made it look like a TE Magna

Post by **Bennoz** » Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:03 am

Yeah, they're already here... and i want one.

Will wait till either the turbo version arrives, or till the yanks make a kit for them.

Kustom · Post by **Kustom** » Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:18 am

I hate how the rear guards are like a Hyundai. The other version looks better IMO. Will post up pics later to show you what I'm talking about

bass_twitch · Post by **bass_twitch** » Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:28 am

Bennoz wrote:Yeah, they're already here... and i want one.

Will wait till either the turbo version arrives, or till the yanks make a kit for them.

There was talk of a supercharged version...

but not at initial release.

Post by **Bennoz** » Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:52 am

That'll do!

Kustom · Post by **Kustom** » Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:57 pm

So this is the FT86 or Subaru BRZ shape [ignore the numberplate]

But this is the shape I would prefer (Much better rear quarter guards imho. The ones above is to hyundai like) [ignore the numberplate]

SchumieFan · Post by **SchumieFan** » Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:38 pm

yeah its already in production dan... top gear just did a road test (all be it on the track)

agree with Ben, but theyve said one of the main focus points was that it wasnt turbo...

heres the bit from TG
http://www.topgear.com/uk/toyota/gt-86/road-test/driven

-Nighthawk- · Post by **-Nighthawk-** » Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:46 pm

They have been experimenting with a turbo on the BRZ, so it's definitely possible. I doubt we will see that variant for another few years however.

It really is a modern age FTO that's more refined and is meant to give the same excitement, but in RWD.

Unfortunately Mitsubishi won't ever revive the FTO, there is talk of them even getting rid of the EVO to just focus on everyday cars...

Astron_Boy · Post by **Astron_Boy** » Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:02 pm

The EVO is dead already... that is old news, and I'm next to positive confirmed news.
Toyota stopped years ago making actual 'sports cars' with the last being the supposed mr2 spyder.

I could well be wrong, and so be it if I am, but I simply have an eary feeling we just won't see this car on the road here for some reason, or atleast not the fire breathing 'sports car' we all want it to be, everyone else is moving away from it, bar Nissan.
Even Mazda is killing off their line of 'sports cars' for sports models like the horrid 3 series with a face only a mother could love, and she'd have to be blind...

I do agree however with Kustom...

the original concept looked better, reminds me of the original X concept for the final EVO.

That shape is also very reminescent of an old TV Star car which I still today think could pull off 'modern'

EscapingFate · Post by **EscapingFate** » Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:26 am

I love the front of the 86 looks soo nice rear... the rear only a mother could love... but front totally nice!

-Nighthawk- · Post by **-Nighthawk-** » Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:57 am

How can you not believe it will hit the road here? Its literally 100% confirmed to go into production in its current form.

Toyota said in a press statement that they want to recapture the image they once had with all the sports cars and this is the first step forward. They are currently working on the Supra successor.

Post by **aza013** » Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:46 am

Astron_Boy wrote:

That looks like a modernized Vipper

me like

.

Post by **Bennoz** » Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:21 am

You know its coming when Toyota have it on their Australian webpage: http://www.toyota.com.au/86

Sorry to say, its got the Hyundai ass

And lol at all those calling it an FTO replacement that just happens to be a rear wheel drive. Its the size of of a 370Z and is the theoretical successor to the AE86 Trueno / Sprinter.

bass_twitch · Post by **bass_twitch** » Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:37 am

Bennoz wrote:You know its coming when Toyota have it on their Australian webpage: http://www.toyota.com.au/86

Sorry to say, its got the Hyundai ass

And lol at all those calling it an FTO replacement that just happens to be a rear wheel drive. Its the size of of a 370Z and is the theoretical successor to the AE86 Trueno / Sprinter.

yes but I believe it shares the same spirit as our cars, nimble, tight cornering, light, 140ish kw NA, average bottom end beautiful top,
And it looks sweet!

Agree on the Hyundai back end, also reminds me of a BMW..

Either way I'm excited, hoping it is everything I want it to be, then in a few years I'll pick up a used one!

FTO AUSTRALIA