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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 6:56 pm
by D-TRAIN
I'm not sure if the following link has been posted before but I found it to be an informative read.

For those interested in how HID/Xenon works, and what to or not to go for, it's a must-read!

http://www.intellexual.net/hid.html

And yes, I have an 97 Aero GPX which has factory HIDs. To compare it to factory halogens, you really need the FTOs side by side. It's definately not "bluey" like you see in tangcla's kits. I can only tell you my HIDs are brighter/clearer than a Camry's and a Lancer's headlights, but then again I'm not comparing apples with apples :roll:

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 10:01 pm
by tangcla
D-TRAIN wrote:And yes, I have an 97 Aero GPX which has factory HIDs. To compare it to factory halogens, you really need the FTOs side by side. It's definately not "bluey" like you see in tangcla's kits. I can only tell you my HIDs are brighter/clearer than a Camry's and a Lancer's headlights, but then again I'm not comparing apples with apples :roll:
Definitely not apples vs apples! Halogens and HID Xenons are completely different... HID headlights defecate over the halogens! 8)

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 11:49 am
by tangcla
anyone else? I'm ready to order again!

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 12:35 pm
by fto12345
You don't even really compare it like that either...
Just by looking at the colours it produces you can tell what kind of HID they are...

The stronger it is, the bluer the lights are...
The less the strength, and the whiter the lights are...

:D

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 12:56 pm
by ruchi
By strength do you mean brightness, if so this is not correct, if not then what did you mean?

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 1:02 pm
by tangcla
ruchi wrote:By strength do you mean brightness, if so this is not correct, if not then what did you mean?
Not sure- but HIDs both brighter and more intense than halogens!

Some of the benefits of HID over halogen are...

* Up to three times less wattage is used (HID = 35w, halogen = 55-100w)
* Up to four times more bright light produced (HID = 2400-3200lu, halogen = 800-1700lu)
* Up to ten times more intense light produced (HID = 202,500cd, halogen = 21,000cd)
* Up to six times longer lifespan (HID = 2500hr, halogen = 400hr)
* HID light contains less infrared and ultraviolet light, which fatigues the driver and surrounding motorists
* HID light illuminates the road with better contrast and more lifelike tones of color
* Halogen filaments naturally produce a color of 2300K to 4000K (2300K is yellowish, 4000K is whitish) Anything bluer requires the use of light-dimming color filters
* HID produces a natural color of 4100K to 6000K (4100K is daylight white, and 6000K is slightly bluish white) Anything bluer requires the use of light-dimming color filters
* HID lighting produces a wider and deeper beam pattern with razor sharp cut off lines
* HID has low lumen maintenance, meaning bulbs do not dim down as much towards the end of their lives
* HID has high flux properties, meaning light is very evenly distributed when installed properly

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 1:17 pm
by ruchi
Thanks Tangcla but I already know about HID's, I was just wanting FTO12345 to clarify his statement in case I had misunderstood what he was saying.

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 1:24 pm
by tangcla
ruchi wrote:Thanks Tangcla but I already know about HID's, I was just wanting FTO12345 to clarify his statement in case I had misunderstood what he was saying.
Just re-read your post, and the post above it (fto12345's post) - I see now :P question wasn't targeted at me!

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 9:18 pm
by D-TRAIN
fto12345 wrote:The stronger it is, the bluer the lights are...
The less the strength, and the whiter the lights are...

:D
I suggest you have a look at the URL I posted earlier - under "Misconceptions".

Trust me, if you want to know more about HIDs or learn about them, that web page is a worthwhile and informative read!

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 11:40 pm
by tangcla
D-TRAIN wrote:I suggest you have a look at the URL I posted earlier - under "Misconceptions".

Trust me, if you want to know more about HIDs or learn about them, that web page is a worthwhile and informative read!
I quoted the relevant information in my above post ;)

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 4:34 pm
by GPXXX
fto12345 wrote:You don't even really compare it like that either...
Just by looking at the colours it produces you can tell what kind of HID they are...

The stronger it is, the bluer the lights are...
The less the strength, and the whiter the lights are...
i presume the 'strength' you are referring to would be the color temperature, not brightness.

the higher the K rating, the cooler (ie: blue-ish) the colour will be, like the 7500K HID kit i have for mine.

warm colors (anything below 4000K) will start to be greenish where as 6000K will be neutral white, i think... there's a chart somewhere but i can't remember where to dig it up :P

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 6:15 pm
by tangcla
GPXXX wrote:the higher the K rating, the cooler (ie: blue-ish) the colour will be, like the 7500K HID kit i have for mine.
Mike, just wondering whether you got your kit yet? :P

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:20 pm
by GPXXX
getting it fitted end of this week... ;)

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 9:41 pm
by tangcla
OK, here's your big chance to get in on HID kits!

Price dropped to $590 for all but H4 high/low;
$700 for H4 high/low.

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 5:04 pm
by ANBU_fto
ok now im lost..../

whats the pricing again....

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 5:14 pm
by tangcla
ANBU_fto wrote:ok now im lost..../

whats the pricing again....
lol

For an FTO, it would cost you $590 for a pair.

The $700 is for cars with H4 high/lowbeam headlights.

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 10:11 pm
by GPXXX
well I finally got mine fitted and apart from the turbo, i have never had such a big smile on my face, esp when driving at night... it looks fully wicked and certainly improves the vision by miles.

check my review hereif you're interested.

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 11:41 pm
by ANBU_fto
huh? ey? wha?

im still lost... im so sorry... kkeke

ok... for an FTO it costs $590, these lights are the ones u turn on at night just driving along happly, and the $7oo ones, what are they for?

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 1:07 am
by tangcla
ANBU_fto wrote:huh? ey? wha?

im still lost... im so sorry... kkeke

ok... for an FTO it costs $590, these lights are the ones u turn on at night just driving along happly, and the $7oo ones, what are they for?
$700 ones are different globe types- they're for other cars who have a single globe for high and lowbeam. That's why it's more expensive. :P

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 10:38 am
by tangcla
Welll, here's for quality: the kit's components is made by Hella in Germany, not cheapy made in China crap! :)