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The Mighty Barina

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:58 pm
by Daniel2019
So I have added to my fleet of cars.. up to 3 now, 4 if I ever get this van...

Re: The Mighty Barina

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:16 pm
by Sahin
Why do you need a van you pedo

Re: The Mighty Barina

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:17 pm
by Astron_Boy
Why do you need a Barina you... Hmm, better not say it.

Re: The Mighty Barina

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:23 pm
by Daniel2019
It was given to me by a good family friend. They were just gonna scrap it because they didnt think it would pass rego and didnt have any need for it.

On startup it apparently gets up to nearly 100 degrees in temperature, then goes back down to normal operating temp. Said it was some sort of delay issue where the fan kicks in later than it should. Ideas?

Re: The Mighty Barina

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:23 pm
by Daniel2019
Sahin wrote:Why do you need a van you pedo
Van is also going to be free.

Can never turn turn free cars!

Re: The Mighty Barina

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:25 pm
by Astron_Boy
Daniel2019 wrote:On startup it apparently gets up to nearly 100 degrees in temperature, then goes back down to normal operating temp. Said it was some sort of delay issue where the fan kicks in later than it should. Ideas?
Checked the cooling system?

And that would not cause rego failure, what is Really wrong with it? Lol

Re: The Mighty Barina

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:27 pm
by Sahin

Re: The Mighty Barina

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:28 pm
by Daniel2019
Astron_Boy wrote:
Daniel2019 wrote:On startup it apparently gets up to nearly 100 degrees in temperature, then goes back down to normal operating temp. Said it was some sort of delay issue where the fan kicks in later than it should. Ideas?
Checked the cooling system?

And that would not cause rego failure, what is Really wrong with it? Lol
Nothing else as far as I can tell. I havent had a chance to have a good look over it yet, will do that tomorrow.

There is no rust or accident damage or anything like that. Just need to check all the lights and boots and stuff in the morning.

The coolant system is just running on water so when I replace it with coolant I will see if I can find out whats going on with it.

Re: The Mighty Barina

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:37 pm
by Astron_Boy
Daniel2019 wrote:
Daniel2019 wrote:On startup it apparently gets up to nearly 100 degrees in temperature
The coolant system is just running on water.
Ever do High School chemistry... Or Home Ec in your Barinas case?

Re: The Mighty Barina

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:38 pm
by silverGPX
Well thats not good it heats up that far, maybe needs new sensors, thermostat, radiator cap

Re: The Mighty Barina

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:42 pm
by Daniel2019
Yeah im not going to be driving it until the temp issue is sorted. I like the head gasket the way it is...

Astron are you implying that using water is causing the temperature to get too high? Ive never heard of that before :scratch:

Re: The Mighty Barina

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:45 pm
by Daniel2019
Just spoke to the bloke I got it off..

They reckon its definitely the first fan switch.

Re: The Mighty Barina

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:47 pm
by Sahin
Daniel2019 wrote:Yeah im not going to be driving it until the temp issue is sorted. I like the head gasket the way it is...

Astron are you implying that using water is causing the temperature to get too high? Ive never heard of that before :scratch:
Water boils quicker

Re: The Mighty Barina

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:48 pm
by Daniel2019
Yeah, but that wouldnt explain why its going up and then back down. The fan is kicking in too late from what Ive been told.

Re: The Mighty Barina

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:08 pm
by Astron_Boy
As Sahin said.

Water boils quicker, so the fans dont have enough time to kick in, the sensors arent keeping up with the reading, so its peaking faster.

Hence why you dont use pure water, among other reasons in a cooling system.

I would bet it that if you replace with proper coolant, the problem is sorted.

How do I know this? Cause a friend did the same thing with his Shivic.

Re: The Mighty Barina

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:13 pm
by Daniel2019
Point.. although ive seen water used countless times with no issues.

Regardless, thanks Dan (and Sahin, kinda :lol:) I will flush the coolant tomorrow and see how it goes.

Re: The Mighty Barina

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:15 pm
by Sahin
Astron_Boy wrote:As Sahin said.

Water boils quicker, so the fans dont have enough time to kick in, the sensors arent keeping up with the reading, so its peaking faster.

Hence why you dont use pure water, among other reasons in a cooling system.

I would bet it that if you replace with proper coolant, the problem is sorted.

How do I know this? Cause a friend did the same thing with his Shivic.
Part of the reason that coolant is also called AntiBoil and Antifreeze! higher boiling temp and lower freezing temp... Boiling = BAD! Freezing = BAD!
I had the same problem with my civic lol

At the very least, use 50% coolant 50% water

Re: The Mighty Barina

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:16 pm
by Astron_Boy
Even if it doesnt fix the immediate problem, it should be done regardless, so.

Only other thing would be the temperature sensor for the thermo fans, but I'd put that at fault last.

Just do a general service and the car should be fine.

Re: The Mighty Barina

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:40 pm
by Retsub
Instead of letting it idle to heat up.
Start the car and drive it straight away, im not saying rev it high just drive it. with the wind passing through the radiator it will not matter if the fans kick in or not.
So if temp still gets high I would say that it is not the fan but something else. IMO
It could have an air lock in it as well, That can cause wierd temp readings
If you are going to flush the radiator then I would suggest that you replace the thermostat, should be around $20.
Make sure that when u flush it you turn the heater on to full and leave it on full while your refilling it.
I would also make sure you use a good quality coolant.

Re: The Mighty Barina

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:59 pm
by Daniel2019
Thanks for the advice guys. A proper flush of the system will get rid of the airlock correct?

Needs manual conversion.