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Camshafts/gears

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 4:50 pm
by bjk
Probably pipe dreaming here, but anyway.

I know RPW does camshafts for the 6A12, but it sounded like valandis had a lot of trouble. Does anyone else know of places that do the shafts, the also the gears? (I recall seeing another brand in that thread as well that I think Bennoz used?)

Re: Camshafts/gears

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 5:01 pm
by Bennoz
How deep are your pockets?

Re: Camshafts/gears

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 5:22 pm
by phunkydude
Cheaper to just drop a K20A and you can get aftermarket goodies everywhere which proven to work with significant gain.

Actually, just get a Honda. :lol:

Re: Camshafts/gears

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 5:58 pm
by bjk
Is that the S2000 engine? I did have a look at some today. cheapest is still like 16k though.

hmmm.

Re: Camshafts/gears

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 6:11 pm
by vipfto
and what may you be planning?

really no need for these at all

Re: Camshafts/gears

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 7:27 pm
by bjk
Key terms: pipe dreaming. :lol:

I dunno, even at the moment I feel the 6A12 is powerful enough for me. But I'd like to do something different if I can. I'd like to stay NA, even though it's more expensive in some ways.

Re: Camshafts/gears

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 7:34 pm
by vipfto
Haha way more expensive. Only way to make real gains cheap is forced induction. Unless you port polish hi flow heads ecu and all the rest which will cost more and less gain. Unfortunately for lack of bolt on bits na power just expensive to do

Re: Camshafts/gears

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 9:05 pm
by bjk
Unless you engine swap to a more powerful NA engine. All the more to think about.

on that note, how hard woud it be to drop a K20 in an FTO?

Re: Camshafts/gears

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 9:08 pm
by Astron_Boy
you would be spending money to put in an engine with not much more power.
To spend more money again for bolt on parts for said end.

Here's a more suited forum for you.

clicky

Will work out cheaper in the long run.

Re: Camshafts/gears

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 9:24 pm
by bjk
Wait, what are you saying that will end up cheaper?

Re: Camshafts/gears

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 9:33 pm
by Astron_Boy
Just buy a bloody Hoonda in the first place. :lol:

Re: Camshafts/gears

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 9:42 pm
by bjk
Astron_Boy wrote:Just buy a bloody Hoonda in the first place. :lol:
Ah.

Maybe one day down the track. :tongue:

Anyone scouted out prospective V8s? :lol:

Re: Camshafts/gears

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 9:44 pm
by Technikhaus
there were some people a few years back attempting to fit a Lexus V8, but it never went anywhere.

https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=f&rct=j ... Lo6U0PA7hQ

Re: Camshafts/gears

Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 12:33 am
by bjk
Hmm, that's kinda disappointing. I reckon given my level of mechanical competence I'll have to win the lottery and find someplace competent enough that I can say, 'This is what I want, make it so!' :lol:

Re: Camshafts/gears

Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 8:54 am
by Bennoz
Problem is there's 4 of them you need. Most billets are around $250 a pop, so there's a grand gone already & all you have is 4 steel sticks.

Then you gotta find someone to come up with the grind, there just isn't anyone who does them, so you'd be up for R&D costs, tooling setup etc.

Then you gotta hope they work & can be tuned in with whatever ECU you'll need to buy so you can adjust things like ignition timing & fuel.

That 5 grand could have been more easily spend strapping on a hair dryer. This is why no one bothers & its an un-explored avenue.
It's just too damn expensive for too little result. You'll never get the kind of power you will with boost.
We'll just have to add you to the NA purist pipe dreamer club with Valandis & Spetz :lol:

Re: Camshafts/gears

Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 9:22 am
by spetz
Bennoz wrote:We'll just have to add you to the NA purist pipe dreamer club with Valandis & Spetz :lol:
In retrospect I do wish I had opted for a 4G63 :cry:

Re: Camshafts/gears

Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 3:29 pm
by bjk
Perhaps it's also just born out of my oft-quoted mechanical noobishness. For some reason I feel there's more sh*t that can go wrong with a turbo. That being said, even now if something was amiss I probably wouldn't know what to do. :lol:

Maybe I'll aim for the 140 odd kw that the 6A12 seems capable of in NA via intake/exhuast/ecu, then save the dreaming craziness for something else. Likely a sleeper BJ protege with a turbo KL. :cheeky:

Re: Camshafts/gears

Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 8:28 pm
by Sahin
bjk wrote:Perhaps it's also just born out of my oft-quoted mechanical noobishness. For some reason I feel there's more sh*t that can go wrong with a turbo. That being said, even now if something was amiss I probably wouldn't know what to do. :lol:

Maybe I'll aim for the 140 odd kw that the 6A12 seems capable of in NA via intake/exhuast/ecu, then save the dreaming craziness for something else. Likely a sleeper BJ protege with a turbo KL. :cheeky:
Every one of your posts, I learn new words lol
Such wisdom.

Re: Camshafts/gears

Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 9:18 pm
by bjk
Sahin wrote:
bjk wrote:Perhaps it's also just born out of my oft-quoted mechanical noobishness. For some reason I feel there's more sh*t that can go wrong with a turbo. That being said, even now if something was amiss I probably wouldn't know what to do. :lol:

Maybe I'll aim for the 140 odd kw that the 6A12 seems capable of in NA via intake/exhuast/ecu, then save the dreaming craziness for something else. Likely a sleeper BJ protege with a turbo KL. :cheeky:
Every one of your posts, I learn new words lol
Such wisdom.
I think I'd make a better philosopher than a car enthusiast. :lol:

Re: Camshafts/gears

Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 9:24 pm
by Astron_Boy
Totes.

You can start philosophizing Gen Y.