Blowing white smoke, no oil getting to valve covers please HELP

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Re: Blowing white smoke, no oil getting to valve covers plea

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Funugs wrote:
Daniel2019 wrote:Yes, a comp test will tell you if it has a blown head gasket or not... :facepalm:
comp tests are generally an unreliable and sh*t way of detecting it, HGF can cause lower compression, or higher compression, or not affect it at all. :facepalm:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Says the guy that dropped a bolt down his intake :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Take it to someone who knows what they're doing.
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No worries. If you don't wanna do that then pull your heads off and have a look. See you in 12 hours.
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Daniel2019 wrote: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Says the guy that dropped a bolt down his intake :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Take it to someone who knows what they're doing.
lol w.e man, it was a washer. sh*t happens.
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Funugs wrote:
Daniel2019 wrote: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Says the guy that dropped a bolt down his intake :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Take it to someone who knows what they're doing.
lol w.e man, it was a washer. sh*t happens.
Right. Like I said, if you don't wanna do that then rip your heads off.
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Daniel2019 wrote:
Funugs wrote:
Daniel2019 wrote: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Says the guy that dropped a bolt down his intake :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Take it to someone who knows what they're doing.
lol w.e man, it was a washer. sh*t happens.
Right. Like I said, if you don't wanna do that then rip your heads off.
I'm not pulling it apart again, It would literally be cheaper and less time consuming to just drop a new motor in their than replace the head gasket. And it is almost undoubtedly the head gasket.
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Only ever seen a head gasket go on one of these engines once. How about you fork up the hundred bucks to potentially save yourself a thousand bucks and a weekend of engine swapping? :lol:
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Daniel2019 wrote:Only ever seen a head gasket go on one of these engines once. How about you fork up the hundred bucks to potentially save yourself a thousand bucks and a weekend of engine swapping? :lol:
I dont see the point, can u think of any other possible explanation for why im getting smoke when the thermostat is closed?
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Probs should just take it to a mechanic tbh.
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Yeah... youve asked, weve answered, youve rejected...

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(You can buy compression testers from sca for about $50)
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By the sounds you have a bent valve in there. Comp test will tell all but blowing smoke, engine almost locking, running rough and carbon up plugs like that plus fact you dropped somethjing down there would bet Schummies left nut on it
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+1 on bent valve. Intake washer strikes again.
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vipfto wrote:By the sounds you have a bent valve in there. Comp test will tell all but blowing smoke, engine almost locking, running rough and carbon up plugs like that plus fact you dropped somethjing down there would bet Schummies left nut on it
Na I got the washer out, I literally could not hand crank it with a flat washer about 3mm in height lying on top of the piston so if the nut or anything else was down their I would have noticed. The engine runs fine and I think a bent valve would make some kind of knock or weird noise, it sounds pretty normal atm.
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You could have put a small nick in the edge of the valve or head valve seat, which is allowing oil into the chamber.
Again a compression test will show this.

If you have coolant leaking into a chamber, then a compression test and coolant pressure test will show this.
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You need to stop asking questions if you aren't going to listen to anyone.

People are giving you sound advice and you're just saying "nah, I don't think it's that" without even testing.

If you don't want to listen and try what anyone suggests. What's the point in asking questions here?

It's been said several times now. Do a compression test. If you have low compression in one of the cylinders, do a leak down test to determine where it's leaking.
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This^^^
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Vectose wrote:You need to stop asking questions if you aren't going to listen to anyone.

People are giving you sound advice and you're just saying "nah, I don't think it's that" without even testing.

If you don't want to listen and try what anyone suggests. What's the point in asking questions here?

It's been said several times now. Do a compression test. If you have low compression in one of the cylinders, do a leak down test to determine where it's leaking.
alright alright, ill do a compression test if the smoke keeps coming back, ive been driving it around a bit today and its not smoking anymore, but im guessing tomorrow morning when shes cooled down again it will be back to square one.
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Are you sure it's not just condensation?

All cars will steam from the exhaust on a cold morning.
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Vectose wrote:Are you sure it's not just condensation?

All cars will steam from the exhaust on a cold morning.
Way too much smoke to be just condensation, plus like i said, when the thermostat opened up the smoke stopped instantly, then came back when it closed.
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And if you run the car with the radiator cap off do bubbles rise? Is the coolant milky?

Im also thinking bent valve... i know how weak they are from personal experience... id bet vip's ovaries on it
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