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Popping out the driveshaft from the gearbox - why so hard?

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 12:47 pm
by Rob Furniss
We need to remove the auto box before the engine comes out for rebuild and will be putting a manual box back in after.
I've got one of the driveshafts out as the inner rubber had split but it's left the inner bit still in the box.
The drivers side inner boot looks good though so didn't want to cut it if I didn't have to but I've had a pry bar in and it doesn't want to move and I was unsure of how much force to apply as I didn't want to break anything.
Should I just cut the boot and pull it out and leave the other bit still in the box - will the box clear everything and come out like this?

Or is there a knack to getting the inner out with the pry bar like does anything have to line up, has to be in neutral etc or do I just apply more force?

Re: Popping out the driveshaft from the gearbox - why so har

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:04 pm
by Sahin
Try a screw driver and hit the end of the screwdriver at a 90degree angle, this is how I used to get all mine out, they're in there quite tight and I found especially tight on autos, must be a girl thing :lol:

Re: Popping out the driveshaft from the gearbox - why so har

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:20 pm
by Sahin
Oh and keep rotating it and hitting and repeat

Re: Popping out the driveshaft from the gearbox - why so har

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:30 pm
by Rob Furniss
Ok will do, I reckon the rotating thing might be the trick as I haven't tried that. Will have at it with the pry bar again and this time use the hammer too.

Re: Popping out the driveshaft from the gearbox - why so har

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:31 pm
by Bennoz
I use a ball joint splitter fork. Couple of whacks with the lump hammer & she'll come (no pun)

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Re: Popping out the driveshaft from the gearbox - why so har

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:08 pm
by Rob Furniss
Thanks Ben

Re: Popping out the driveshaft from the gearbox - why so har

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 5:18 pm
by silverGPX
If you need boots I have 2 lol


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Re: Popping out the driveshaft from the gearbox - why so har

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:30 pm
by Daniel2019
Yep ball joint splitter or hammer a fat chisel into the space between the box and CV cup.

Re: Popping out the driveshaft from the gearbox - why so har

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 9:52 pm
by Rob Furniss
Daniel2019 wrote:Yep ball joint splitter or hammer a fat chisel into the space between the box and CV cup.
Got a set of these https://www.kincrome.com.au/4pc-pry-bar-set
Will give it another go later

Re: Popping out the driveshaft from the gearbox - why so har

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 9:55 pm
by Bennoz
Yeah nice. I have the big one of those, also does the job.

Re: Popping out the driveshaft from the gearbox - why so har

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 9:57 pm
by Daniel2019
Yeah sorta. I use them but often even on a hoist they can be difficult to remove with pry bars.

You need a big f**k off fat cold chisel type thing. Something you can hammer up in there. Ball joint splitter as Bennoz suggested.

When you try with the prybar, get the two larger ones and apply equal force on opposite sides of the cup. If you have the car on a hoist (I assume you dont?) you can just wedge the prybar in there and then crash tackle the c**t :lol:

Re: Popping out the driveshaft from the gearbox - why so har

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:12 am
by Rob Furniss
Daniel2019 wrote:Yeah sorta. I use them but often even on a hoist they can be difficult to remove with pry bars.

You need a big f**k off fat cold chisel type thing. Something you can hammer up in there. Ball joint splitter as Bennoz suggested.

When you try with the prybar, get the two larger ones and apply equal force on opposite sides of the cup. If you have the car on a hoist (I assume you dont?) you can just wedge the prybar in there and then crash tackle the c**t :lol:
No it's just up high as I could on axle stands.

Re: Popping out the driveshaft from the gearbox - why so har

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:51 am
by Daniel2019
Righto, in that case might be a bit difficult with pry bars. Maybe you could wedge it in and kick it or you may have to smack a chisel or something up there as mentioned.

Or if you're feeling very creative and are super cautious with it you may wedge the pry bar/chisel in and then jack the car up, take the stands out and lower the car onto it. But that would be a super last resort thing and I would only try that after at least an hour of swearing :lol:

Re: Popping out the driveshaft from the gearbox - why so har

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:56 am
by Sahin
Daniel2019 wrote:Righto, in that case might be a bit difficult with pry bars. Maybe you could wedge it in and kick it or you may have to smack a chisel or something up there as mentioned.

Or if you're feeling very creative and are super cautious with it you may wedge the pry bar/chisel in and then jack the car up, take the stands out and lower the car onto it. But that would be a super last resort thing and I would only try that after at least an hour of swearing :lol:
i hope you dont change driveshafts at work :lol:

Re: Popping out the driveshaft from the gearbox - why so har

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:14 pm
by Rob Furniss
Daniel2019 wrote:Righto, in that case might be a bit difficult with pry bars. Maybe you could wedge it in and kick it or you may have to smack a chisel or something up there as mentioned.

Or if you're feeling very creative and are super cautious with it you may wedge the pry bar/chisel in and then jack the car up, take the stands out and lower the car onto it. But that would be a super last resort thing and I would only try that after at least an hour of swearing :lol:
I've only spent 5 minutes of swearing on it so far so not nearly enough.

Re: Popping out the driveshaft from the gearbox - why so har

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:27 pm
by silverGPX
Last time got the missus to hold a big flap tip and I kicked the screwdriver.


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Re: Popping out the driveshaft from the gearbox - why so har

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 11:20 pm
by Daniel2019
Sahin wrote:
Daniel2019 wrote:Righto, in that case might be a bit difficult with pry bars. Maybe you could wedge it in and kick it or you may have to smack a chisel or something up there as mentioned.

Or if you're feeling very creative and are super cautious with it you may wedge the pry bar/chisel in and then jack the car up, take the stands out and lower the car onto it. But that would be a super last resort thing and I would only try that after at least an hour of swearing :lol:
i hope you dont change driveshafts at work :lol:
All the time.

But, I have a hoist and a big chisel.

Have never used method of lowering the car as I suggested, but I'm trying to think of a way around it while being under a car with no space. We aren't all Ronnie Coleman, you know.

Re: Popping out the driveshaft from the gearbox - why so har

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:28 am
by Bennoz
silverGPX wrote:Last time got the missus to hold a big flap tip and I kicked the screwdriver.


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And how did you get the driveshaft out?

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Re: Popping out the driveshaft from the gearbox - why so har

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:28 am
by silverGPX
Bennoz wrote:
silverGPX wrote:Last time got the missus to hold a big flap tip and I kicked the screwdriver.


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And how did you get the driveshaft out?

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Good question


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Re: Popping out the driveshaft from the gearbox - why so har

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 6:09 pm
by Rob Furniss
I left it to Rowan and he's popped them out without too much trouble, I must be getting old.