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Re: in reply to the vy

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:11 pm
by khunjeng
phantom wrote:hey Oliver 89 im going by what the experts told me i never raced it on the quater.

i was told by my HDT mechanic that the brocks out of factory only did 15s on the quater.

but i know for a car to pull 11.2 sec the engine would have to be worked of its tits . thats fast il need proof of that.

il belive 14s 15s not 11s sory dood im not being mean but il need proof of that.

now back to the ftos i still want to know how much it will pull on the quater.
u can do anything...just need cash. Out of the box? who cares. CREAM.

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:33 pm
by FTO338
Brocky HRT are like 20yrs old now, so whats the point comparing a car that old?

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 1:38 am
by Storm
I reckon over a 1/4 mile you'll do 440 yards.

And then some more after the finish line.

If you do less than this you probably have a problem :wink:

Re: in reply to the vy

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 4:51 pm
by payaya
phantom wrote:hey Oliver 89 im going by what the experts told me i never raced it on the quater.

i was told by my HDT mechanic that the brocks out of factory only did 15s on the quater.

but i know for a car to pull 11.2 sec the engine would have to be worked of its tits . thats fast il need proof of that.

il belive 14s 15s not 11s sory dood im not being mean but il need proof of that.

now back to the ftos i still want to know how much it will pull on the quater.
The LS1 does 13's stock so why do you need proof basic mods wont get you into the 11's??? Its happening all the time dude LS1's are freaks.

Its the same with the I6 Turbo in the Ford, huge power gain from small mods.

my opinion

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:23 pm
by phantom
hey fto 338 dont knock the brockys
just becourse there old dosnt make them slow depends on what u do to the engine. thats on any car.

i raced down lygon street freequently in the days draged many cars won many racees including a vl calais turbo which was boosted 40pounds and i won. so dont knock old cars

also xy falcon GT HO come out factory 369kw not even a clubsport of today has that power.

i just found it hard to belive that a comodore with not much work done to the engine could pull 11 secs


end of discussion.

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:37 pm
by payaya
example of not many mods:

Guys, I headed to the 'plex last night for a run.

Bolted some M/T's to the back of my F6 Tornado.

11.87 @ 115mph.
1.80 60'

Quickest F6 in the country
Quickest Manul F6 or 'T' in the country

Mods-

968 injectors
4" Dump & Cat
Centre Muffler removal
8psi actuator
edit tuned by XTC engine management ( the wog ) = 313rwkw

$2500.00

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 6:16 pm
by khunjeng
payaya wrote:example of not many mods:

Guys, I headed to the 'plex last night for a run.

Bolted some M/T's to the back of my F6 Tornado.

11.87 @ 115mph.
1.80 60'

Quickest F6 in the country
Quickest Manul F6 or 'T' in the country

Mods-

968 injectors
4" Dump & Cat
Centre Muffler removal
8psi actuator
edit tuned by XTC engine management ( the wog ) = 313rwkw

$2500.00
and whats the base price?

1000cc injectors..roughly 700
dump and cat, cat 400 for an ok one...dunp 200-300
new actuator for 8psi...dunno few hundred
ecu remap...prob around 300.

plus labout...looks about right.

Fantastic result...those F6s go hard...would blow my 12.2@113MPH away...but then again mine is 25k and whats yours? :P

take of the cat, you will see sh*t loads of more accorss the whole range...I gained about 20kw everywhere with it de-cat'd.

what tyres ar eu running? stock suspension?

Re: my opinion

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:40 pm
by FTO338
phantom wrote:hey fto 338 dont knock the brockys
just becourse there old dosnt make them slow depends on what u do to the engine. thats on any car.

i raced down lygon street freequently in the days draged many cars won many racees including a vl calais turbo which was boosted 40pounds and i won. so dont knock old cars

also xy falcon GT HO come out factory 369kw not even a clubsport of today has that power.

i just found it hard to belive that a comodore with not much work done to the engine could pull 11 secs


end of discussion.
Hmm where did u see me knocking the brocky? I'm just saying if you going to compare cars, compare the same era. :roll:

BTW i've got few friends that drive classic muscle, so i know what they can do :wink:

Re: my opinion

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 7:24 pm
by cb
phantom wrote:hey fto 338 dont knock the brockys
just becourse there old dosnt make them slow depends on what u do to the engine. thats on any car.

i raced down lygon street freequently in the days draged many cars won many racees including a vl calais turbo which was boosted 40pounds and i won. so dont knock old cars

also xy falcon GT HO come out factory 369kw not even a clubsport of today has that power.

i just found it hard to belive that a comodore with not much work done to the engine could pull 11 secs


end of discussion.
lol i raced down lygon street freequently in the days draged many cars won many racees including a vl calais turbo which was boosted 40pounds and i won. so dont knock old cars you were racing a calais on 40psi haha good on you. Ok say ther really were runnin 40psi which i doubt a hell of a lot. the intercooler would of wanted to be massive in order to cool it down otherwise it would of went like crap 40psi hot air is slower than 12psi of cold so you prove nothing with your statement except your a liar.

and as for the GTHO having that much power is a load of crap too it had 225kw maximum and they were the meanest car of there day. Look old cars may have the cubes but thats not substitute for technology. Even the phase 3 GTHO only had 270-280kws and that was the best they got except for the 4 phase fours brought out!

Re: my opinion

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 8:48 pm
by khunjeng
lol 40psi is a lot...must ahve been a special car...like to see it come on boost. But different turbos run different boost I have seen 36...but again he had spent about 100k on the engine alone.


Ihave seen VLs pull 11s...I think I saw one do a 10. They can pull fat times, but its not with a 2k mod.

but who knows...just wack up the boost and let it rip...

Now meanest car of its day....hmmm who could go past the R32 GTR ....for a car made in 1990....it still owns.

cb

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:04 pm
by phantom
cb wankar dont call me a liar

the car i raced was owned by two lebanese guys it was a black vl calais turbo yes they told me it was boosted to 40 pounds. weather it was or not i dont care i stil bet a vl turbo thats all i care about .

and the info about xy ho 351 GT. i got the info out of one of my street machine mags il try to find it then post it for you.

so im not a liar plese dont call me that again i dont need to lie

every body seems to know somthing

ive been around cars all my life and i new these fellers with the vl they had no reason to bull sh*t yes the intercooler was big.

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:04 pm
by Oliver89
Okay , Okay Lets just Take a Chill Pill Everyone.

Yes These Cars are amazing and are amazingly Quick...

I believe the fact that XY GT HO my Cuzin Owns One...They came out 351kw Stock. There was Only 300 Of them made...believe it or not it cost my cuzin $30,000 Big Ones just for the Body my Friends. He lives In Peakhurst.

anyway... believe it Or not Okay guy's... The Powerhouse Racing Developments Commodore did a 11.2 Call the Number and find out for yourself.

apart from that i think i can hit a low 15 in a 1/4 Mile. Thats Gaining LSD quick of the start.

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:19 pm
by kid_dynamite
payaya wrote:example of not many mods:

Guys, I headed to the 'plex last night for a run.

Bolted some M/T's to the back of my F6 Tornado.

11.87 @ 115mph.
1.80 60'

Quickest F6 in the country
Quickest Manul F6 or 'T' in the country
Papaya is that you?? Or are you just using that as an example. I remember reading that post on another forum...they are tough cars..

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:48 pm
by jonowong
settle down children!

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:35 am
by fto617
old cars are cool
but so are new cars :)
i mean...old cars are nice and fast, but cant really pick up chicks!
anyways...who cares if it can pull 11s or not...i believe u
but fto forum dont really care about LS1s i guess...
btw...these days, its piss easy to get 11s down the quarter
so 11's are not much to be proud of...
10's are good.

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:24 am
by FTO338
fto617 wrote:old cars are cool
but so are new cars :)
i mean...old cars are nice and fast, but cant really pick up chicks!
anyways...who cares if it can pull 11s or not...i believe u
but fto forum dont really care about LS1s i guess...
btw...these days, its piss easy to get 11s down the quarter
so 11's are not much to be proud of...
10's are good.
Well that depends on what kind of old cars you talking about, there are lots of classic and muscle cars that will pull chicks better then new cars.

Each to their own, no point comparing different era technology. Is like comparing NASA 10yrs old supercomputer to your latest house hold computers, same performance, but different purpose. :wink:

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:41 am
by kid_dynamite
fto617 wrote:btw...these days, its piss easy to get 11s down the quarter
so 11's are not much to be proud of...
10's are good.
lol come back and tell me that when you've done an 11 second pass. It's not as easy as you think! :wink:

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 7:28 pm
by khunjeng
kid_dynamite wrote:
fto617 wrote:btw...these days, its piss easy to get 11s down the quarter
so 11's are not much to be proud of...
10's are good.
lol come back and tell me that when you've done an 11 second pass. It's not as easy as you think! :wink:
it is when your just talking about it...

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 8:30 pm
by Bennoz
Cant believe we are having this conversation.... again :roll:

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:34 pm
by Oliver89
Bennoz wrote:Cant believe we are having this conversation.... again :roll:
im going to have to agree... :roll:

lets drop it...I'll have to run mine soon...

all i need to bring with me is a hellmet & Regregistration papers and i'll be on the track. :wink: