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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 12:40 pm
by fto12345
Hi,

Sorry I just read what I posted now and the fog lights are H3, which is the model number.

The after market ones you buy like the xenon lights are brighter then FTOs. And I think any car has a head light brighter than FTO. It's because the FTOs low beam doesn't have the reflectors.
Obviously you might be thinking of the higher wattage ones then...but with these you'll have to watch out as this could lead to your sockets melting or your relay going out. This is usually not a problem with newer cars, but I don't think we'll be calling most of our ftos a newer cars....

I've had this problem as well, my socket melted and made it look like the bulb had blown. So I replaced my low beams with the standrd PIAAs and it's fine now. But my high beams still have the higher wattage bulbs in them but as I don't use them all the time it's fine so far.

:)

And sorry i don't really know any one in Mel. about these things...
:)

What about these?

Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 1:38 pm
by Guni_GuGu
What do you guys think about these? They seem awfully awfully cheap...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... gory=33710
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... gory=33710

They seem awfully awfully cheap... how bad could they be?

All I really want is a nice, suttle purplish light.... and so long as turning on the headlights still give me just a bit more visability then no headlights, i'll be happy :)

Even this seems ridiclously cheap for a full hid conversion kit?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... gory=33710

Do these items all fit? I'm aware they are us ad's, but even after currency converting and shipping, it's still very cheap..

Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 2:43 pm
by ruchi
if it seems too good to be true, it generally is...

In reference to the first two links:
These are normal globes (not a HID system) that produce a white light (6000K) which appears to be purple because the glass is tinted. In terms of how good they are, I have no idea but whenever light has to pass through tinted glass it's brightness / performance will decrease.

In reference to the last link:
This is a HID system, but by the time you convert this to AU$ pay for the shipping and add GST you really won't be saving much. On top of that, remember that you will need to pay a professional to install them. You may also run into legal and warranty issues coming from overseas. It is however a proper purple (indigo / violet) light (12,000K).

Just to clarify something, and this may sound a little pendantic, but it should also help to explain things a little better, the colour of the light you are seeking is actually indigo or violet not purple. The basic colour temperature pattern is the same as a rainbow. i.e. red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo and violet. With red and orange being the "warmer" colours and indigo and violet being the "cooler" colours. Colour below red is "infra-red" and above violet is "ultra-violet". To create a true "purple" light you would actually need two seperate colour sources a red one and a blue one mixed together (make sense?). Whereas, based on the information you have provided you are seeking a cooler coloured light (indigo or violet) probably no less than 8,000K, but more likely around 10,000K or above.

Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 3:39 pm
by Guni_GuGu
OK I'm going to bite the bullet I think and buy the top 2...

I mean, it's fairly cheap, and so long as it gives off a nice colour, I will be content... If it's screwed, well I've lost like $50, i'll get over it :p

Will those globes fit, without any problems you think?

Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 7:42 pm
by Boris
Let us know how you go and if they are any good when you get them. k?

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 7:29 am
by Guni_GuGu
Hey one more question, before I buy em... do I need to get parking lights as well? If so what model are they?

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 1:34 pm
by GPXXX
i just replaced the bulbs on my headlights with genuine PIAA bulbs (7500K) - ask anyone who came to Mallacoota just how 'blue' it looks at night LoL... it's not very bright at first impression but in total darkness it works a treat, almost as if the lines on the road somehow illuminate... but yerrr, it did take some getting used to, but if you have driving lights on, you should have no visibility probs.

btw, i paid $200 for my bulbs... :roll: *slaps self over the head*

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 9:06 am
by Guni_GuGu
So what are the differences between these PIAA (globes?) and those much cheaper ones? I mean, what do they do differently? If anything? Do the PIAA use gas to light? Because I thought, that was what a HID kit was designed for?

What about those Phillips lights? Do they do anything different compared to those el cheapo ones?

What I'd really like is something like the H4 SUPER PLASMA GT-X
http://www.piaa.com/Bulbs/Bulbs-H4.html, but it seems the only thing PIAA offer for the 9005/9006 series is the Xtreme WHITE PLUS (which has a slight bluish tip) and the PLATINUM SUPER WHITE which I'm guessing a just boring piaa lights http://www.piaa.com/Bulbs/Bulbs-9000.html

At least they offer something a bit more decent for our fog lights in the h3 series like the H3 SUPER PLASMA (which is a bluish purple look) http://www.piaa.com/Bulbs/Bulbs-H3.html..

Still, how do these globes differ to the cheap ones, and phillips ones? Outside of the performance (Which seems to be unamimous that they perform significantly best, compared to everything else, except a full HID system)? What do they actually do different?

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 10:37 am
by Boris
Guni_GuGu wrote:At least they offer something a bit more decent for our fog lights in the h3 series like the H3 SUPER PLASMA (which is a bluish purple look) http://www.piaa.com/Bulbs/Bulbs-H3.html..
I have these in my foggies, there awsome. Direct light is really white, but on the outside it's like a blue purple. There very nice.

A credit to the previous owner :P

I'm no expert, but I believe that with light bulbs you fully pay for what you get...

I would think that it's mostly technology, quality, and the gas used inside the bulb, so say a 55w globe will be as bright as 110w due to the gas inside. But i'm just rampling here :wink:

Mikey, which PIAA bulbs did you get?