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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:31 pm
by harry90
didnt wanna make a new topic, although this is related...
its a gpx wing with the middle part taken out....well it looks like it cos the holes are closed in the middle.
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:41 pm
by I8A4RE
Its not a GPX wing its a GR wing, unless my car is a GPX

Sweet lol......oh there goes the turbo project
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:18 pm
by JOeJOe
They're both the same are they not?
Only the vR wing is different.
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:04 am
by xSlurpee
Aint they both the same?? enlighten me simon

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:47 am
by aza013
yep 180 with limiter take that off and you will red line in 5th at 250kph

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:44 am
by zuihoujueding
how to get the limiter off? anyway, im probably have no balls to go anywheremore than 180kph. lol
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:02 am
by bushido
mivec controller!!
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:05 am
by zuihoujueding
is that it? u kidding right...dont bullying a noob!

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:28 pm
by nicholas
No, he's completely right - mivec controller will delimit the car.
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:30 pm
by zuihoujueding
alright...is it something u buy off the shelf? and install? sh*t..i know nothing
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:43 pm
by borntospeed
i'm actually quite interested in knowing how to remove the limiter. i drive the manual version of the GPX and i travel the m4 5 days a week for 30km. i'm burning up so much petrol going at 130km/h at 4200rpm.
i have been racking my brains on how the gears work. i often feel that the relatively short final gear is terrible. does anyone feel that the fto is more complete with a 6th gear? all my gears are pretty short, even the 5th gear.
short of replacing the 5th gear, does anyone have any idea if derestricting the fto will make the 5th gear taller? s**t man... this question sounds stupid to even my own ears. i mean, a gear is fixed with a set amount of teeth right? so i guess there is no way? please enlighten me. the fto has so much potential. i just feel that mitsu have placed plenty of restrictions on it.
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:51 pm
by zuihoujueding
im understand how you feel. but fto is already stated as a high revving engine car. like the type r. it needs to be revved higher than other cars to get any decent power/speed.
damn, im driving up newcastle this weekend and i'll see how much fuel is going to cost me.
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:59 pm
by JOeJOe
borntospeed wrote:i'm actually quite interested in knowing how to remove the limiter. i drive the manual version of the GPX and i travel the m4 5 days a week for 30km. i'm burning up so much petrol going at 130km/h at 4200rpm.
Not a wise thing to claim, going a bit over the speed limit there.
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:21 pm
by Bennoz
Removing the limiter has nothing to do with gear ratio's. All removing the limiter will do is enable to you drive over 180kmh (on a track of course.)
If you think your gear ratio's are to short, then start investigating a longer final drive ratio - ie the diff ratio. A longer final drive will in effect lengthen all gears.
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:39 pm
by Delvance
I wouldn't worry too much about the RPM's when cruising peeps...
The engine has a redline of 8k rpm (for mivec) and is obviously set up to produce power mid/high. If you change the diff ratio to lengthen all gears, you will most likely find that at cruising highway speeds, if you need to go up a hill or overtake, you'll be busy changing gears vs giving it a little more gas. Also sitting on those rpm's doesn't mean you're killing the fuel either.
Put simply, Mitsu have done a proper job in relation to gearing and engine power curve characteristics. There's not much point changing the diff ratio to get longer gears unless you've gained monstrous torque via SC, Turbo or momentary nos shots. If you're interested in grand touring your car etc, i'm sorry but you've bought the wrong vehicle. To me, the gear ratios were pretty spot on...after some mods sure i could've used a taller fifth gear but Mitsu never intended for all owners to mod their FTOs.
Oh, changing your diff to a larger one will slow make your car slower as well.
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:36 pm
by borntospeed
JOeJOe wrote:borntospeed wrote:i'm actually quite interested in knowing how to remove the limiter. i drive the manual version of the GPX and i travel the m4 5 days a week for 30km. i'm burning up so much petrol going at 130km/h at 4200rpm.
Not a wise thing to claim, going a bit over the speed limit there.
true... oh well... its not like i go 130 all the way, some parts of the m4 are pretty straight and long, so its a nice place to test out the revs and speeds of the 5th gear. also, occassionally you get stuck behind a few slower moving cars and short bursts of acceleration to overtake is quite fun, especially just to hear the mivec roar.
but i think i understand a little more about what mitsu tried to achieve when they built this car. to me, its a civic type r (EK9) killer, its a car that is meant to corner at high speeds and can be driven by novice to pro drivers because of its FF layout. Its cheaper to maintain than a FR car becuz you done have the shaft to worry about. its designed for track attacks rather than drag races due to its reluctance of "accepting" forced inductions.
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:53 pm
by zuihoujueding
what u just said are exactly what FTO drivers want to hear. but theres always but but and more but.

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:47 pm
by I8A4RE
Aint they both the same?? enlighten me simon
Dont know, dont care much about GPX's
how to get the limiter off? anyway, im probably have no balls to go anywheremore than 180kph. lol
The limiter is controlled ny the ecu, so you need to either get a chip piggy back or standalone
i'm burning up so much petrol going at 130km/h at 4200rpm.
mate 130 im doing just 3500rpm and i have a 4spd tip
Removing the limiter has nothing to do with gear ratio's. All removing the limiter will do is enable to you drive over 180kmh (on a track of course.)
If you think your gear ratio's are to short, then start investigating a longer final drive ratio - ie the diff ratio. A longer final drive will in effect lengthen all gears.
Ben could not be any more correct
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:54 pm
by KJ_bob
JOeJOe wrote:They're both the same are they not?
Only the vR wing is different.
true
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:41 am
by borntospeed
doesnt the manual and auto have different gear ratios? hence the 5 spd vs 4 speed? correct me if i'm wrong but i think only for the pre face lifted ones, the manual is like 0.5-0.8s quicker 0-100 than the auto...