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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:33 am
by kay_8
hello is this still on, if it is i like in.

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:47 am
by johhny
kay_8 wrote:hello is this still on, if it is i like in.
yeah sure.

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:48 am
by johhny
*shue .....pending reply
*Wi11iam (6000K) ....... pending reply
*apz-312 (6000K, 9006/HB4)
*bobz (4300K,9006/HB4)
*mxysxy (6000k,9006/HB4) - Deposit paid
*lawrencetlc (6000K,9006/HB4)
*khunjeng (6000K,9006/HB4) - Deposit paid
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*sublime19 (6000K/HB4)
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*dannyboyau (8000K/HB4)
*kay_8

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:50 am
by lawrencetlc
sorry just have a question here...

one of my friends who is driving a subaru wrx asked me not to buy a cheap HID lights because he has bought a pair for himself and it burnt after a while later. When I ask him how much is consider cheap and how much is consider expensive, he said the 200 bucks one are cheap and the price can go up to 1000.

I told him that we have a one-year warranty (do we?) for the bulb but he said things are never that easy. He said it is hard to get a replacement and involves many procedures, especially if we are importing the bulbs from overseas...

so... i wonder how are we going to respond to this kinda question and also what can we do and what will be done if the HID bulbs are burnt?

thanks..

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:49 am
by johhny
lawrencetlc wrote:sorry just have a question here...

one of my friends who is driving a subaru wrx asked me not to buy a cheap HID lights because he has bought a pair for himself and it burnt after a while later. When I ask him how much is consider cheap and how much is consider expensive, he said the 200 bucks one are cheap and the price can go up to 1000.

I told him that we have a one-year warranty (do we?) for the bulb but he said things are never that easy. He said it is hard to get a replacement and involves many procedures, especially if we are importing the bulbs from overseas...

so... i wonder how are we going to respond to this kinda question and also what can we do and what will be done if the HID bulbs are burnt?

thanks..

I don’t think there is a substantial trade off in between price and quality in this case, maybe its just a way of thinking, if I said today it was $600 per set will you have a different opinion ....well.... I don’t deny that $1000 might have better quality than $200 ones... however I don’t think the quality difference worth $800 what do u think?

I’m not here to rip people off and for $230-240 per set ill be lucky to get $10 per set out of it, because I had good feed back from my friends and I have them on my own car, I think it’s a good product for it’s price.

Yes it has one year replacement warranty, but if the bulbs do blow after a year you can just replace it, all HID blubs are the same which is 35W.

At the end of the day it’s up to you to decide but I had it on my car for 4-5 month now and I haven’t had a problem in rain hail or shine.

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:08 pm
by efteoh
can i get a set of HB3 4300K

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:11 pm
by FTO338
Josh, i take thats for your new ride hey, haven't seen you around for a while. Still got the FTO?

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:14 pm
by efteoh
haha, damn your fast! yeah. once you go HIDS its hard going back! same thing with turbos unfortunatly.

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:16 pm
by johhny
*shue .....pending reply
*Wi11iam (6000K) ....... pending reply
*apz-312 (6000K, 9006/HB4)
*bobz (4300K,9006/HB4)
*mxysxy (6000k,9006/HB4) - Deposit paid
*lawrencetlc (6000K,9006/HB4)
*khunjeng (6000K,9006/HB4) - Deposit paid
*chelly (6000K) ....... pending reply
*sublime19 (6000K/HB4)
*EURO (6000k)
*bigpitty1 (6000k/HB4) - Deposit paid
*dannyboyau (8000K/HB4)
*kay_8
*efteo (4300K/HB3)

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:20 pm
by efteoh
sweet, so when does this go ahead?

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:23 pm
by johhny
efteoh wrote:sweet, so when does this go ahead?
should be soon, still trying to get the numbers together

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:25 pm
by FTO338
Johnny, how many spare bulbs do you have or can confirm that they are easily readily available? As most people are not aware, once the bulb is burn or die, you can't just go and pick one up from anywhere, you have to use the same brand which is going to be a real hassle if they are not readily available.

And can you confirm what are the replacement bulbs cost including shipping....etc. I know average is around $250 each.

I just want all the members whos getting these HID are aware of the "running" cost. Don't want another "jay" happen here, which then all hell break lose and the committe's PM will be flooded with complaints.

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:31 pm
by johhny
FTO338 wrote:Johnny, how many spare bulbs do you have or can confirm that they are easily readily available? As most people are not aware, once the bulb is burn or die, you can't just go and pick one up from anywhere, you have to use the same brand which is going to be a real hassle if they are not readily available.

And can you confirm what are the replacement bulbs cost including shipping....etc. I know average is around $250 each.

I just want all the members whos getting these HID are aware of the "running" cost. Don't want another "jay" happen here, which then all hell break lose and the committe's PM will be flooded with complaints.
I will get back to you on that one, i will try to get everyone a spear set of bulbs with there HIDs.

BTW whats jay

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:32 pm
by FTO338
efteoh wrote:haha, damn your fast! yeah. once you go HIDS its hard going back! same thing with turbos unfortunatly.
Mil told me mate, so i know what you got, need to catch up soon :wink:

Well funny though, my current ride had normal Halogen bulbs, but they are bright as the HID i had on my FTO. And i think is because FTO projector light unit is really sux. I'm sure most members would agree to that. If you don't have HID on your FTO, you bascially blind at night.

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:36 pm
by lawrencetlc
what's meant by the "running cost"??

i have read many websites about HID and many of them said that although HID bulbs are more expensive than halogen bulbs, but their life is 10 times of halogen bulbs and some even say that you'll never get a HID bulb replaced because its the normal lifespan of a car...

so... if the bulb is going to blow out in two or three years' time, i will have to re-consider...

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:36 pm
by FTO338
johhny wrote: BTW whats jay
That was part of the username who organized the ultimate "groupbuy fu*kup" :?

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:37 pm
by lawrencetlc
having said that... i really like the brightness and colour of HID... think that all car manufacturers should stop using halogen and use HID since it is so bright :idea:

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:56 pm
by FTO338
lawrencetlc wrote:having said that... i really like the brightness and colour of HID... think that all car manufacturers should stop using halogen and use HID since it is so bright
There is a problem with HID, which won't effect FTO, but mainly luxury cars, according to most manufacturer, HID can not be turn on and off constantly, you need to wait at least 15mins in between switching it on and off.

Why this will affect luxury cars? Because most luxury car have auto headlights and self adjust system. Which mean it will turn on by itself if the sensor doesn’t pick up enough surrounding lights.

So if you drive under a bridge that is at least have a shadow area of 15-20 meter, the lights will turn on, and then off after you exit the shadow area. If your daily driving involves series of bridges like that, your HID will be gone with in 6mths. :?

Lots of people aren't aware of this 15mins rules and like to show off to their mate with their newly installed HID, turning it on then off, then on and then off again, and next thing you know, bulbs is gone within few months.

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:56 pm
by johhny
lawrencetlc wrote:what's meant by the "running cost"??

i have read many websites about HID and many of them said that although HID bulbs are more expensive than halogen bulbs, but their life is 10 times of halogen bulbs and some even say that you'll never get a HID bulb replaced because its the normal lifespan of a car...

so... if the bulb is going to blow out in two or three years' time, i will have to re-consider...
yeah... HID use less power and lasts longer...

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:59 pm
by mxysxy
FTO338 wrote: If you don't have HID on your FTO, you bascially blind at night.
Second that,
Even with Narva +%30 highbeam into lowbeam upgrade, still not bright