FTO AUSTRALIA

Ok so im a little un-educated on auto gear boxs .. So iv got abasic question ..

Im noticing my 1st gear is slipping a bit .. ie Its change from 1st to 2nd is a little slow ... and when in Tiptronic it ahh .. dosnt feel very sporty ... 2nd to 3rd feels fine , its quick and feel good in tip ... its just the 1st to 2nd change ... seems to almost even drop into neutral for a second before changing ...

My question is , is is just a simple case of having it tuned up when it goes in for a service next ? .. can they "tighten" something up , or retune the box so that its a snappier change ? ... or is this not possible without large work ? .. Also , if its fixed up , would that mean the tiptronic would work cleaner aswell ? ..

Cheers

Bout the best thing you can do is change the fluid in it... get some good stuff. Im sure Redline or similar companies make auto trans juice.

Otherwise its big $$$ for auto trans headers tuned up with torque converter stiffening.

Alternatively, you could also try reseting your ECU (gearbox one as well) by just pulling the battery for a while. The box will then 'relearn' your drving style.

Hmm ok thanks Bennoz , your a wealth of information today ! ..

I only just had my ECU reset , and its only just remembered my driving style now ..(a month or so later) ..


another stupid one , but I should wait until I can have my auto transmission drained before putting in new fluid right ? .. like oil ?

*nods*

Yep, gotta come out before new stuff goes in

Nice one , thanks Ill buy some nice red line Transmission fluid and oil for my next service ...

Ben mate, i think we'd have broken down, blown up ftos all over the place if it wasnt for you. We should make you VP or something

Ill add to that. Make sure you get the correct oil for your box or you will stuff it. Mitsubishi use a special M rated oil for that purpose. Was talking to the mechanic the other day and he said that if you dont use the exact right stuff, you'll screw it. I know Valvoline make it (among others). The bottle should basically say 'especially for Mitsubishis'

Oh and did I say it is expensive stuff!

dstocks wrote:Ill add to that. Make sure you get the correct oil for your box or you will stuff it. Mitsubishi use a special M rated oil for that purpose. Was talking to the mechanic the other day and he said that if you dont use the exact right stuff, you'll screw it. I know Valvoline make it (among others). The bottle should basically say 'especially for Mitsubishis'

Oh and did I say it is expensive stuff!

Dunno what M rated oil is but the oil u ned for your tip box is SP rated. Check the oil thread for more info.

The SP spec has more fricton modifers than a Dextron III spec.

Buy OEM from Mitsi...cheap stuff form them.

Maybe shouldnt have used the term 'Rated'

Ill try and find the empty bottle I had.....

Was M followed by something

not fussed persoanlly. It need to be HFM - High Friction Modified - ATF fluid.

If you decide to use a non-SPIII fluid, make sure that the torque converter locking and tranny shifting remain the same as before. If not, you should dose it with a fluid converter. Abrubt shifting and TC shudder means that you need more fluid convertor.

SPIII fluids are highly friction modified more so than Mercon/Dexron.
Enough HFM'd = smooth shifts and smooth TC lookup.

You should also reset the TCM when you switch or change your ATFs. This will eliminate any confusion caused by the learned/adaptive transmission parameters.

A 5L bottle of the stuff from Mitsi costs about $20. I dont see the point in using anything else considering this meets the spec.

Fair Enough. Cant say I know that much about it myself. Only repeating what I was told. Your option is also much cheaper as the bottle I bought was a 1 Litre top-up bottle and it cost $20. Although I guess it was the same as what was already in the box I suppose and oils should not be mixed....

dstocks wrote:Fair Enough. Cant say I know that much about it myself. Only repeating what I was told. Your option is also much cheaper as the bottle I bought was a 1 Litre top-up bottle and it cost $20. Although I guess it was the same as what was already in the box I suppose and oils should not be mixed....

dont mix different spec'd oils..ppl reckon its bad...but some ppl thin its ok. I dont mean different visc. ratings..different specs.

In the end if it seems to sh*t ok...then it cant be too bad. But I wouldnt risk it perosnally for the price of a new tip box.

Now I'm really curious about what this M rating is.......

Is that a special Mitzy formula that makes the gearbox last like they do in the rallies and dakar?

Nacho wrote:Now I'm really curious about what this M rating is.......

Is that a special Mitzy formula that makes the gearbox last like they do in the rallies and dakar?

I doubt its anything but a letter on a bottle.