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Causes Of White Smoke

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 7:39 pm
by Nacho
Hi all just wondering what sort of thing you'd expect when you see smoke coming out of the rear bank just underneath the intake manifold.

Definitely not exhaust as there is a strong burning smell and nothing is dripping onto the exhaust downpipe. Engine is still relatively cold and smoke starts only after having the engine on for about 4 mins. Engine is idling fine otherwise.

Have removed the thermostat as I thought it may have coolant circulating issues but water is circulating fine. Temperature gauge reads normal. I'm guessing potentially an oil circulation issue. Where is the oil pump located? In the sump? Or worst case scenario oil entering pistons. :evil:

Any thoughts?

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 8:57 pm
by Bennoz
Burning coolant... hate to say it, but blown head gasket. Check the coolant level, depending on the blow, it can be chewed up really quicky or really slowly. Compression test will confirm.

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:54 pm
by BorepYano
what does your oil look like?
normal or chocolate milk shake?

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:17 am
by Bennoz
BorepYano wrote:what does your oil look like?
normal or chocolate milk shake?
True ^^ but sometimes the gasket can blow direct between the water gallery & the cylinder, just burning the coolant.... leaving the oil ok.... othertimes, it can go to porridge.

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:56 pm
by BorepYano
hmm... if it is that then does that mean all he has to do is change the gasket (and obviously fill up the coolent)?
sry, just trying to learn ;)

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:58 pm
by Bennoz
BorepYano wrote:hmm... if it is that then does that mean all he has to do is change the gasket (and obviously fill up the coolent)?
sry, just trying to learn ;)
Yup :) sometimes the blow can be almost 'cosmetic' if you will. Simply pull the head, replace gasket & torque it all back up. Mind you I'd never recommend putting a head back on unless its been serviced. Ie checked for warps & bows etc, machined if need be then had valve guides etc changed.

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:41 pm
by BorepYano
:) ty

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:51 pm
by Nacho
BorepYano wrote:what does your oil look like?
normal or chocolate milk shake?
Sorry I'm curious about this. Can you please continue with what you've got to say about oil condition?

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:11 am
by Bennoz
If you have a head gasket blow between both a water gallery & an oil gallery, the water will mix with the oil - leaving the oil looking like brown porridge & smelling like sh*t :wink:

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:04 pm
by BorepYano
and if u leave the problem be for a while, since u r going to keep topping up the water and the water mixes with the oil, u'll eventually end up with double or even tripple the amount "oil"/milk shake in your engine compared to what u are supposed to have.

which means u'll eventually blow other things up just because of the preasure... eventually u'll be able to track where you have been by the brown sluge trail u leave behind.

but probably not as much smoke.... until your pipes and what not start cracking under preasure.

moral of the story... if your oil looks brown, then fix it asap, and dont use a wire brush to clean the head :oops: 8O :lol:

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:22 pm
by Nacho
Is there a sure fire way to test yourself whether it's the head gasket? The car is unregistered and not yet drivable so professional compression test might be out of the question.

I just heard that if I pull the head off there's no turning back as in the head has to go to the workshop so it goes back in properly.

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:18 am
by payaya
You sure its not coolant dripping from the throttle body? Those hoses get lose sometimes.

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 2:54 am
by BorepYano
payaya wrote:You sure its not coolant dripping from the throttle body? Those hoses get lose sometimes.
to be sure.... through a handful of chalk dust into your engine bay (well... more complecated than that lol, but u get the pic), and turn the car on for a while and see where the leak is coming from ;)