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The virus, Conficker, the one all the hype is about...

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:38 pm
by FTEvolution
Hey all, I work in IT, and even though the hype about this virus that is supposed to go live on the 1st f April may just be exactly that, hype, it is worth being secure.

Download all your updates and get a decent Antivirus/Antispyware software (IMO the free ones are relatively junk, though people still swear by AVG free). Don't fool for the "get as many different protections as you can" approach, you will turn your computer into a dog and likely end up not as secure.

Next make sure you download the excellent Malware Bytes: Anti Malware from http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php , it is by far the best single piece of cleanup software you should have (this will pick up items that even Eset/NOD/Norton etc products won't see).

Ensure you update it before running (as it is free, there is no scheduled cleanup or auto downloads). I would suggest buying the full version of this software, it is fast becoming an industry standard.

Lastly, a couple of websites that detail this (not so) new "threat"

http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2009 ... n_you.html

http://www.dshield.org/diary.html?storyid=5860

Don't get caught with your pants down, this certainly does have the potential to ruin your computing life...

My suggested software for general home PC security is the following:

Norton 360 (my personal favourite)
Malwarebytes Anti Malware
Ccleaner from http://www.ccleaner.com/
Autoruns from http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysi ... 63902.aspx
HijackThis from http://majorgeeks.com/download3155.html

Latest version of Java runtime (very important for general internet security, if anyone has come up against the vUndo virus, you will know exactly what I mean) from http://java.com/en/download/index.jsp

DON'T FORGET THOSE WINDOWS UPDATES!!!
In closing, I will post a guide for cleaning up a PC. I do this once a month whether I have an infection or not. This part get's pretty involved, and is complex in stages. Don't do any of ths if you aren't confident. I will accept no responsibility for damage or loss of data. Do this at your own risk.

Firstly, download the tools linked above

Next, get your computer into Safe Mode:

After your computer boots past the first splash screen, mash the "F8" key until you are presented with...

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Select "Safe Mode"

Once in Windows, be sure to disable "Syetem Restore"

Right click "My Computer", select "Properties" then select the "System Restore" tab

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Select the "Turn off System Restore" check box indicated above

Next up, install CCleaner and start it up

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Select the "Cleaner" tab as indicated, then click "Run Cleaner"

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Next select the "Registry" tab, click "Scan for Issues". Once that is done, click "Fix selected issues", follow all prompts to backup your registry.

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Next, select the "Tools" tab, here you have "Uninstall" and "Startup" options. Remove programs that shouldn't be there using "Uninstall" (Smiley Central or similar are spyware, there are many that shouldn't be there). Disable programs from starting up on the "Startup" tab. Virus' and Spyware place entries in here, disable or delete their entries.

Next up, install HijackThis

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Unzip the files to the desktop for ease of location: Start unzip process

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Unzip the files to the desktop for ease of location: Select desktop

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Unzip the files to the desktop for ease of location: Finally, unzip

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Heed this next warning, you CAN do damage to your PC, but this tool is extremely powerful for stopping popups and browser redirects

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Run the program, select "Do a system scan only", if you don't know what you are doing, use the option with a log file. That can be posted here and I can help decipher the entries (or anyone else with this sort of experience).

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The next screen is everything your computer loads at boot, and at other times. This is complex, but ticking a checkbox on the left side, then selecting "fix selected" will remove them PERMANENTLY! You have another chance to save a log here too.

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Here is your last warning before deleting the items you selected.

Next up, install Autoruns, then run the AutorunsSC program

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Select the "Logon" tab, here is everything that your computer loads at log in time. This is the same as with CCleaner, but this is a little more in depth.

This entire guide so far has been preperatin for actual Virus removal...

Next up, install MalwareBytes Anti Malware

Run the program

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Ensure you select to update the program and run immediately

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Select the "Scanner" tab, click "Perform full scan"

Full scans are important if you know you are infected, or if it's the first time you have used this to scan. For preventative maintenance, just use the "Perform quick scan" option. Any other times you use the program, make sure you update it first.

Follow the prompts, you will be told if there are any infections and the rest of the options are very self explanatory.

Post questions here. I will help where I can. I can also attempt to help remotely (though if you are infected, this probably won't be possible).

Lastly, reboot the PC into normal mode and re-enable System Restore.
IF THIS IS USEFUL TO PEOPLE, MAYBE IT COULD BE STICKIED...

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:15 pm
by mr-charisma
Can anyone say "April Fool's joke?" :lol:

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 11:24 pm
by J
:facepalm:

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 11:48 pm
by mr-charisma
Good post though FTOEVO..


I have a different view on it though Blow it away & start from scratch! :P

.. if you suspect you have / or had a virus there's no way of knowing whether you've actually gotten rid of it.. rootkits / viruses etc can hook themselves in & snuggle up inside your OS nice & hidey-like..

my 2 cents;

1.) Backup to external HDD
2.) Zero the HDD or at least format & Slate all partitions
3.) Clear BIOS
4.) Install Linux & run Windows in VM, or Re-Install Windows (w/ Linux dual boot) & run Deep Freeze or Windows Steady State with user profiles stored on 2nd partition ;)
5.) Make a Ghost image of the standard set up & apps before copying back any 'potentially infected' files / folders from backup drive
6.) Download Antivirus (if not using Linux) & update OS & apps regularly

Any drama's - call in the Pro's.

VirtualBox http://www.virtualbox.org/ is a nice little app that's good for running another OS inside your current one.. Has a nice feature so you can run it in "seamless mode" .. Use it all the time @ work to run a separate Windows VM for Domain Admin' account stuff & keep it secluded from my normal user account.

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:45 am
by Delvance
Bunch of geeks :P

I can't talk, i work in IT currently too lol. Just setup my mediacentre box on my plasma and am replying using it atm haha =/ I need a wireless k/b and mouse with better range though blargh!

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:54 am
by koolio1234
haha...we are a bunch of geeks arent we....

just built an core i7 4 monitor system for someone , and cos its running an unprotected xp pro, i was fearing I'd get a virus on it before i got it to him...

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:17 am
by FTEvolution
mr-charisma wrote:Good post though FTOEVO..


I have a different view on it though Blow it away & start from scratch! :P

.. if you suspect you have / or had a virus there's no way of knowing whether you've actually gotten rid of it.. rootkits / viruses etc can hook themselves in & snuggle up inside your OS nice & hidey-like..

my 2 cents;

1.) Backup to external HDD
2.) Zero the HDD or at least format & Slate all partitions
3.) Clear BIOS
4.) Install Linux & run Windows in VM, or Re-Install Windows (w/ Linux dual boot) & run Deep Freeze or Windows Steady State with user profiles stored on 2nd partition ;)
5.) Make a Ghost image of the standard set up & apps before copying back any 'potentially infected' files / folders from backup drive
6.) Download Antivirus (if not using Linux) & update OS & apps regularly

Any drama's - call in the Pro's.

VirtualBox http://www.virtualbox.org/ is a nice little app that's good for running another OS inside your current one.. Has a nice feature so you can run it in "seamless mode" .. Use it all the time @ work to run a separate Windows VM for Domain Admin' account stuff & keep it secluded from my normal user account.
I agree, it does make sense that it is an April Fools joke, except that the actual virus is real, and it does get it's instructions all over the net. I sh*t you not when I say this is one to be wary of.

Good advice there too mate. Best option that I have found for backing up your system is using Acronis Trueimage. Allows you to create your own recovery partition on any drive (even removeable). What I have done to all of my PC's is a completely fresh install, all drivers and software. Then I run that program to make an image.

You just press F11 at boot time and restore your data to your system. Doesn't matter what has happened to your system, you can recover from any system melt down. Best $50 I ever spent.

Simple enough for all you noobs to use too...

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:19 am
by I8A4RE
:? You lost me at "hey all" :oops:

Seriously! im lost when it comes to this sh*t.

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:06 am
by FTEvolution
I8A4RE wrote::? You lost me at "hey all" :oops:

Seriously! im lost when it comes to this sh*t.
:D

Just get that computer secure fella

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:53 am
by koolio1234
or this will happen:


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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:03 am
by Supplanter
A simple way to check if you have been infected is to go to this website: http://www.confickerworkinggroup.org/in ... chart.html.

The virus generally blocks access to antivirus sites, so if you have pictures missing in that website, they are being blocked by the virus, if you see all the images, then you are probably OK... probably.

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:01 pm
by FTEvolution
Good point, good site. Conficker was the catalyst for this thread, but the instructions are for general PC security too. As I said earlier, I do this monthly on both PC's.

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:11 pm
by SG
I wouldn't turn off system restore in the clean up process, sometimes you get a bad windows update and you need to go back to the previous version (if theres no uninstall)

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:36 pm
by J
koolio1234 wrote:haha...we are a bunch of geeks arent we....
Can you speek in ''star trek'' language aswell l? :lol:

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:53 pm
by mr-charisma
nuqjatlh? ghobe'!!

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 7:30 am
by FTEvolution
SG wrote:I wouldn't turn off system restore in the clean up process, sometimes you get a bad windows update and you need to go back to the previous version (if theres no uninstall)
Don't, I repeat DON'T ever go along with that. Virus' will modify the System Restore settings on a regular basis, you remove the Virus, then on next restart System Restore puts back all of the old registry entries, and you are back in square one, sometimes worse!
FTEvolution wrote:
Lastly, reboot the PC into normal mode and re-enable System Restore.
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I did say that at the end... What that does is re-creates a new restore point when the PC is completely clean. The point is to only disable System Restore while you are doing the cleanup.

One thing I did not say though, which i should have, is be sure to update all of your Outlook Express .OCX files (google that for the location) and/or your MS Outlook .PST files. Backup your documents folders and other data. All to a flash drive or portable HDD.

That is an important part, as there is always some danger of dataloss (I have only destroyed one out of over 200, so not bad (had a backup though so all good)).

Don't get me wrong there SG, I aren't disagreeing with you, I am saying you are wrong. Over the last year I have done this a lot. Saying that isn't to seem elitist, but putting people wrong here will necessitate system rebuilds at the least, and severe data loss at the worst. Which isn't what this thread was aimed towards.

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:17 pm
by SG
Theres nothing wrong with system restore if you dont have any virus'... just dont use it if you're infected.

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:19 pm
by FTEvolution
System restore is a great tool, and very useful, but you still didn't read entire posts before replying.

I said to TURN IT OFF when starting cleanup and removal, then turning it back on. It is an industry standard approach

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:19 pm
by da_msta_chizz
Wait wait wait..

May i ask who recommended Norton 360?

Norton is - literally - the worst paid antivirus on earth.
It's useless if you download anything or use the pr0n, and makes your PC chug down worse than removing your rams.



Uninstall Norton, and try NOD32 (4.0 - Trial) for a month. I guarantee you will switch over to it, and literally spit on your Norton disc.

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:23 pm
by Bennoz
+1 on the Norton hatred.
Comic book guy wrote:Worst Antivirus EVER
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