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Thinking of Buying a different car! need advice/ideas!

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:35 am
by Shahrez
My FTO has been a loving companion for 5 years now and its starting to show signs of old age. Since i wont start full time work until a year or so, uni and other stuff makes spending on the car really tricky! so iam gonna be selling my fto soon.

The budget for my next car is 10 - 15k . that should be good enough to last me a few years and once i start full time work i'll see what happens. Will definately get an FTO again down the track and build it into a beast aka project car.

Now i was thinking for the mean time, maybe an Audi A4-A6? something nice, something different? what else do you guys rekon might be worth looking at?

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:51 am
by I8A4RE
Personally i wouldnt be buying a AUDI if your strapped for coin. Servicing and parts will rape your wallet and leave it dying in a ditch.

You should get a new model FTO :lol:

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:26 am
by vipfto
corrolla then you wont have to worry about it :roll:

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:39 am
by alekazam
a4 definitly and do this to it :evil:
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:09 am
by Supplanter
If you are strapped for cash and only working part time why buy a new car at all?

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:20 am
by Bennoz
This ^^ But if you must, think of the servicing costs of an Audi...$$$$$WTF$$$$$

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:28 am
by Cassf88
you looking at purchasing a new or used car? thats the first real question....

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 3:40 pm
by Shahrez
well iam not really strapped for cash in the manner that iam broke, but i dont want to spend heaps replacing and repairing things of the FTO. i rather use that money to buy something newer.

Simon - i was thinking of buying a newer FTO.lol

I want to by a used car offcoarse, new cars too pricey and i dont appreciate there 1st year depreciation. lol

So audi's would be expensive to service and maintain hey? is that only from genuine audi service/parts? how's audi realibility?

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:50 am
by I8A4RE
Pretty much anything euro is gonna cost a lot in servicing and repairs. A chic at my work owns a TT and her servicing is, wait for it.......... $1300, thats for just a run of the mill

Seriously if you want cheap ongoing cost you gotta buy something locally made, corolla, commonwhore, falcon.

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:45 am
by Delvance
Get an old corolla with a 4age or 4agze conversion with engineers cert. Will be able to pick up a decent one for 7-8k or less, awesome fun and cheap as chips for service and parts...hell it's DIY for a lot of it if you want. Always a few on carsales.

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:48 pm
by zuihoujueding
Delvance wrote:Get an old corolla with a 4age or 4agze conversion with engineers cert. Will be able to pick up a decent one for 7-8k or less, awesome fun and cheap as chips for service and parts...hell it's DIY for a lot of it if you want. Always a few on carsales.
SECOND TO THAT!!!!

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:39 am
by koolio1234
zuihoujueding wrote:
Delvance wrote:Get an old corolla with a 4age or 4agze conversion with engineers cert. Will be able to pick up a decent one for 7-8k or less, awesome fun and cheap as chips for service and parts...hell it's DIY for a lot of it if you want. Always a few on carsales.
SECOND TO THAT!!!!
Not the best idea ^^ turboed cars are generally more expensive ot maintain especially one that needed an engineers cert, cos of non-standard parts used.


If you want reliability and practicality and economy I would recommend going for a 1995 car onwards with low kilometres. A make like a toyota, mitsubishi, honda, etc. Avoid turbos, rotaries and v8's if you want something that wont cost a fortune to buy and run.

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:53 am
by Shahrez
hmmm good points there overall.

as long as the milage is below 120,000km then that would be perfectly fine. thinking about non-turbo supra maybe? i dont street race or hoon or anything, so for the next few years anything which looks good, runs well, does its job, is perfectly fine for me. after that........EVOOOOOO. lol

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:26 am
by vipfto
Shahrez wrote:hmmm good points there overall.

as long as the milage is below 120,000km then that would be perfectly fine. thinking about non-turbo supra maybe? i dont street race or hoon or anything, so for the next few years anything which looks good, runs well, does its job, is perfectly fine for me. after that........EVOOOOOO. lol
stick with the fto over the na supra mate its better in almost every aspect

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:35 am
by I8A4RE
vipfto wrote:
Shahrez wrote:hmmm good points there overall.

as long as the milage is below 120,000km then that would be perfectly fine. thinking about non-turbo supra maybe? i dont street race or hoon or anything, so for the next few years anything which looks good, runs well, does its job, is perfectly fine for me. after that........EVOOOOOO. lol
stick with the fto over the na supra mate its better in almost every aspect
Totally agree, non turbo supra's are big fat whales of cars to drive, you will be dissapointed and really the costs are going to be similar to a fto. You will not be saving anything, it will cost you more to change over unless you find someone that will swap. But in saying that i bet all n/a supra owners will want to swap :lol:

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:19 am
by Bennoz
My sister has a non turbo Supra & yes it is a fat tub. Wouldn't pull a greased stick outta a dogs arse. She prefers my car :)

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:56 pm
by Delvance
koolio1234 wrote:
zuihoujueding wrote:
Delvance wrote:Get an old corolla with a 4age or 4agze conversion with engineers cert. Will be able to pick up a decent one for 7-8k or less, awesome fun and cheap as chips for service and parts...hell it's DIY for a lot of it if you want. Always a few on carsales.
SECOND TO THAT!!!!
Not the best idea ^^ turboed cars are generally more expensive ot maintain especially one that needed an engineers cert, cos of non-standard parts used.


If you want reliability and practicality and economy I would recommend going for a 1995 car onwards with low kilometres. A make like a toyota, mitsubishi, honda, etc. Avoid turbos, rotaries and v8's if you want something that wont cost a fortune to buy and run.
wtf

Firstly, a 4age is an n/a engine, much like the 6a12. And if the engine's been swapped with a black or silver top 4age, the motor will be quite low km's and not that old.

As for the 4agze, it's supercharged and as a factory setup, tough as nails. Service really is the same as an FTO.

As for the engineers cert, that's needed because the engine has been swapped into another corolla chassis. You can argue, with swaps, a lot of the times the engines get rebuilt and new mounts installed...

:roll:

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:30 pm
by Shahrez
lol yeah test drove a mint quality NA supra yesterday, fto is waaaaaaaaaay better. even though i was getting a bargain for it.

what do you rekon of the aristo's? checked one out today, 72,000kms, full leather interior, fully optioned, bbs mags, aftermarket suspension, 2JZTE twin turbo engine, no engine mods at all. just lowered and exhaust. for $18,000. obviously i can get that lowered.

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:06 am
by koolio1234
Delvance wrote:
koolio1234 wrote:
zuihoujueding wrote:
Delvance wrote:Get an old corolla with a 4age or 4agze conversion with engineers cert. Will be able to pick up a decent one for 7-8k or less, awesome fun and cheap as chips for service and parts...hell it's DIY for a lot of it if you want. Always a few on carsales.
SECOND TO THAT!!!!
Not the best idea ^^ turboed cars are generally more expensive ot maintain especially one that needed an engineers cert, cos of non-standard parts used.


If you want reliability and practicality and economy I would recommend going for a 1995 car onwards with low kilometres. A make like a toyota, mitsubishi, honda, etc. Avoid turbos, rotaries and v8's if you want something that wont cost a fortune to buy and run.
wtf

Firstly, a 4age is an n/a engine, much like the 6a12. And if the engine's been swapped with a black or silver top 4age, the motor will be quite low km's and not that old.

As for the 4agze, it's supercharged and as a factory setup, tough as nails. Service really is the same as an FTO.

As for the engineers cert, that's needed because the engine has been swapped into another corolla chassis. You can argue, with swaps, a lot of the times the engines get rebuilt and new mounts installed...

:roll:
I wasnt referring to the 4age, was talking about the 4agze. Swapping it into a rolla will require an engineer cert, any time you out a engine inside a specific chassis that didnt come stock with that engine, you have to be take measures: spend money on making things fit, upgrading the drivetrain, etc.

The 4age came standard in plenty of corollas, so that should be a fairly easy swap.


I dont understand why you would suggest a corolla with a 4agze swap to someone who needs something cheap to maintain, reliable and economical. As far as i know, everyone i know who owns one will saw otherwise.

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:35 am
by yano
koolio1234 wrote:
Delvance wrote:
koolio1234 wrote:
zuihoujueding wrote:
Delvance wrote:Get an old corolla with a 4age or 4agze conversion with engineers cert. Will be able to pick up a decent one for 7-8k or less, awesome fun and cheap as chips for service and parts...hell it's DIY for a lot of it if you want. Always a few on carsales.
SECOND TO THAT!!!!
Not the best idea ^^ turboed cars are generally more expensive ot maintain especially one that needed an engineers cert, cos of non-standard parts used.


If you want reliability and practicality and economy I would recommend going for a 1995 car onwards with low kilometres. A make like a toyota, mitsubishi, honda, etc. Avoid turbos, rotaries and v8's if you want something that wont cost a fortune to buy and run.
wtf

Firstly, a 4age is an n/a engine, much like the 6a12. And if the engine's been swapped with a black or silver top 4age, the motor will be quite low km's and not that old.

As for the 4agze, it's supercharged and as a factory setup, tough as nails. Service really is the same as an FTO.

As for the engineers cert, that's needed because the engine has been swapped into another corolla chassis. You can argue, with swaps, a lot of the times the engines get rebuilt and new mounts installed...

:roll:
I wasnt referring to the 4age, was talking about the 4agze. Swapping it into a rolla will require an engineer cert, any time you out a engine inside a specific chassis that didnt come stock with that engine, you have to be take measures: spend money on making things fit, upgrading the drivetrain, etc.

The 4age came standard in plenty of corollas, so that should be a fairly easy swap.


I dont understand why you would suggest a corolla with a 4agze swap to someone who needs something cheap to maintain, reliable and economical. As far as i know, everyone i know who owns one will saw otherwise.
I know heaps of cars rolling around without engine cert's for crazy engine swaps. It's an issue when it comes to selling the car only really. A rolla with the 4age 20v or with the 4agze does fit the criteria though. Definitly cheap to maintain, leave the pulley standard and they'll be reliable as anything and they're 1.6l's so they're economical too.

Aristo's are a massive car, nice cruiser but heavy as fk.. For that price range, consider a gen 5 prelude or a series 2 s14 & leave it stock