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adjustable coilovers vs lowered springs

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:11 pm
by BUZZ_QWERTY
Just wondering what the advantages of adjustable coil overs would be over lowered springs... I figure that by the time i buy lowered springs and new shocks I may as well just fork out the $1300 or so for adjustable coil overs... could I get away with using the standard shockies and just buying lowered springs???

Re: adjustable coilovers vs lowered springs

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:23 pm
by Gholdwayne
Take my advice(From someone who has coilovers):

If you don't track, just get something like:

Lowered Springs + aftermarket Shocks
BUT
If by some chance you find adjustable height shocks, go for it. I would.

Coilovers are going to be really stiff even on the softest setting! Hell I didn't mind it before but overtime I kind of got tired of it!

If I could go back, I would go for lowered springs then height adjustable shocks!

Re: adjustable coilovers vs lowered springs

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:38 pm
by BUZZ_QWERTY
cheers for the help dude... where do you think would be the best place to source the parts? haven't really had any trouble finding lowered springs, but the shockies I can't find???

Re: adjustable coilovers vs lowered springs

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:12 pm
by Gholdwayne
They are KYB Excel-G shocks - you can find these from major suspension shops

But as for Adjustable height shocks, not sure where to find them, im sorry :oops:

Re: adjustable coilovers vs lowered springs

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:18 pm
by Shhtuart
The height adjustable shocks pop up from time to time on yahoo japan. KYB did a "limited edition" run of them years ago I'm pretty sure. Only ever seen used ones though, nothing new.

Re: adjustable coilovers vs lowered springs

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:23 pm
by BUZZ_QWERTY
roughly how much do u think it will cost me if I go for lowered springs and aftermarket shocks (not adjustable)??? planning on getting some work done on my exhaust as well, just not sure what I'm looking for... not too concerned with performance, just want a better sound at a reasonable cost... any ideas?

Re: adjustable coilovers vs lowered springs

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:42 pm
by Gholdwayne
I think the springs+shocks inc labour can probably get to the $1000 mark?

With the exhaust, get something like a magnaflow oval muffler with twin tips;

Ask for an Axel-back if you are cheap :lol:
Ask for a Cat-Back if you are a good man :lol: :lol:

Never ever Ever.. EVER... get a cheapo generic cannon :lol:

If you must get a cannon, at least go for a quality one like Apexi, Fujitsubo, Varex, Etc...

If you are interested in more info on exhausts, I am one of your guys :thumright:
aka I was anal with my own so i did too much research and such :D

Re: adjustable coilovers vs lowered springs

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:52 pm
by silverGPX
the Apexi one that kate has on hers sounds like sh*t.

Re: adjustable coilovers vs lowered springs

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:01 pm
by Gholdwayne
I used to admire it's roar though...

Then again, that's only an axel-back. If the piping was changed + better resonators, it would improve.

Re: adjustable coilovers vs lowered springs

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:27 pm
by BUZZ_QWERTY
Cheers Gholdwayne! me and my brother will put the springs and shocks in... If i go 2.5" mandrel bent from the cat-back with a magnaflow oval muffler like you said with the stock tip do you think it would sound alright... and how much do you think that will cost???

Re: adjustable coilovers vs lowered springs

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:53 pm
by Gholdwayne
BUZZ_QWERTY wrote:Cheers Gholdwayne! me and my brother will put the springs and shocks in... If i go 2.5" mandrel bent from the cat-back with a magnaflow oval muffler like you said with the stock tip do you think it would sound alright... and how much do you think that will cost???

Not necessarily, you can probably go for a:
2.5 mandrel bent, 1 or 2 hotdog resonators, and something like a magnaflow oval muffler then go forth for about a month with the setup until the tone settles and see if you still like it... do some adjustments with resonator combinations (add/delete) until you get a sound you like :thumright:

Re: adjustable coilovers vs lowered springs

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:41 pm
by silverGPX
Gholdwayne wrote:I used to admire it's roar though...

Then again, that's only an axel-back. If the piping was changed + better resonators, it would improve.
Nah i actually think theres something wrong with the cannon haha.

Re: adjustable coilovers vs lowered springs

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:31 pm
by bass_twitch
Gholdwayne wrote:
BUZZ_QWERTY wrote:Cheers Gholdwayne! me and my brother will put the springs and shocks in... If i go 2.5" mandrel bent from the cat-back with a magnaflow oval muffler like you said with the stock tip do you think it would sound alright... and how much do you think that will cost???

Not necessarily, you can probably go for a:
2.5 mandrel bent, 1 or 2 hotdog resonators, and something like a magnaflow oval muffler then go forth for about a month with the setup until the tone settles and see if you still like it... do some adjustments with resonator combinations (add/delete) until you get a sound you like :thumright:
Nah scrap the hotdogs.. go 2.5" catback to sports muffler of some sort.
No cannons please though.
I've got 2.5" catback to sports muffler to my twin tips. Perfect sound, I've been told by many many people it sounds amazing.
I love it because, windows and foot down its well sporty, but windows and stereo up you can hardly hear it :D

Re: adjustable coilovers vs lowered springs

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:14 pm
by BUZZ_QWERTY
alrightee cheers for the help everyone... will let you know when I get the work done, tax return is on its way lol... definately won't get a cannon unless it was a varex... dont want anything to loud, and if i did i would want to be able to turn it down.

Re: adjustable coilovers vs lowered springs

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:41 am
by silverGPX
Hey gholdwayne, the cats been bashed out on kates car, what do u reckon if i went 2.5" from the cat to the axel back piping which is also 2.5" with no resonators.

Would it be a good loud or a sh*t loud, i just want to bring it home and scare the sh*t out of her lol.

Re: adjustable coilovers vs lowered springs

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:13 am
by Gholdwayne
Matt, The closest car to that setup would probably be be vipfto's car, i thought it sounded good on idle and crawling speeds, but when you reach that 2.2kRPM sonic spike point, it will rasp like crazy... The overall tone will have more high end frequencies without the resonators especially with the freed up cat :lol:

Re: adjustable coilovers vs lowered springs

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:16 am
by Gholdwayne
BUZZ_QWERTY wrote:alrightee cheers for the help everyone... will let you know when I get the work done, tax return is on its way lol... definately won't get a cannon unless it was a varex... dont want anything to loud, and if i did i would want to be able to turn it down.

Try no resonators for now with the magnaflow/varex oval dual tip for now and see if you'll need 1 resonator..
bass_twitch wrote:No cannons please though.
:oops: Its time for me to switch to an oval dual tip varex - everyone hates me right now :lol:

Re: adjustable coilovers vs lowered springs

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:45 am
by BUZZ_QWERTY
:oops: Its time for me to switch to an oval dual tip varex - everyone hates me right now :lol:
lol, waking the neighbors???

Re: adjustable coilovers vs lowered springs

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:24 pm
by bass_twitch
Gholdwayne wrote:
bass_twitch wrote:No cannons please though.
:oops: Its time for me to switch to an oval dual tip varex - everyone hates me right now :lol:
Nah for some reason you can get away with it Gholdy.. :lol:

Re: adjustable coilovers vs lowered springs

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:40 pm
by aza013
bass_twitch wrote:
Gholdwayne wrote:
bass_twitch wrote:No cannons please though.
:oops: Its time for me to switch to an oval dual tip varex - everyone hates me right now :lol:
Nah for some reason you can get away with it Gholdy.. :lol:
No he can't :twisted:
Change it :P :lol: .