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fto awd?? vr4 Legnum
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:41 pm
by fto-007
just wondering why someone hasnt had a go building a awd fto? is it too had or cost too much? would a vr4 Legnum gear box and drive line bolt in? with modifying the rear chassis fuel tank etc?

Re: fto awd?? vr4 Legnum
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:02 pm
by Taz
a lot of people gave done considerable research on the matter, and quite frankly i think that most of them cannot justify doing it for the amount its going to cost.
I will be attempting mine early next year.
It has been researched that an evo would be the best donor over a legnum as well.
Re: fto awd?? vr4 Legnum
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:06 pm
by xj265
I believe there is someone on the Irish site starting to do a VR4 AWD project?
Re: fto awd?? vr4 Legnum
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:19 pm
by fto-007
like an evo 3? what about the gear box? use the legnum box with evo drivetrain? i did see someone in the uk doing a awd mirage had pic of it looked very interesting

Re: fto awd?? vr4 Legnum
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:23 pm
by xj265
Re: fto awd?? vr4 Legnum
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:46 pm
by fto-007
did you see the link off the link you put up...fto/evo convertable crazy amount of work!
Re: fto awd?? vr4 Legnum
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:55 pm
by xj265
the fully loaded one? yeah pretty crazy, although it has taken like 2/3 years to get to where it is now
fto awd?? vr4 Legnum
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 6:51 am
by Storm
Use enough of an EVO 3 floor for the diff and the tank and you're away. EVO 4 on engine/box/subframe will drop in.
Re: fto awd?? vr4 Legnum
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:50 am
by fto-007
So an evo 4 gearbox will bolt on a 6a12 block?
Re: fto awd?? vr4 Legnum
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:29 am
by Bennoz
It will, but will need some bellhouse modifications.
Re: fto awd?? vr4 Legnum
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:09 pm
by Storm
fto-007 wrote:So an evo 4 gearbox will bolt on a 6a12 block?
If you are going that far why stick to the 6A12? My original plan (before the Mrs walked out of her job) was to go to a 4G63 and all EVO running gear
Re: fto awd?? vr4 Legnum
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:18 pm
by fto-007
Storm wrote:fto-007 wrote:So an evo 4 gearbox will bolt on a 6a12 block?
If you are going that far why stick to the 6A12? My original plan (before the Mrs walked out of her job) was to go to a 4G63 and all EVO running gear
i kinda spent alittle bit too much money on it to chuck it
if i know what i know now i would of went a full evo setup or put a 6a13 in it. but then it wouldnt be a true 6a12 fto....
Re: fto awd?? vr4 Legnum
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:00 pm
by Kustom
Bennoz wrote:It will, but will need some bellhouse modifications.
What about 6a13, what will bolt to that? The same i'm assuming.
Re: fto awd?? vr4 Legnum
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:03 pm
by fto-007
Kustom wrote:Bennoz wrote:It will, but will need some bellhouse modifications.
What about 6a13, what will bolt to that? The same i'm assuming.
yeah thats what i was thinking its the same block as a 6a12.
Re: fto awd?? vr4 Legnum
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:27 pm
by Taz
Damn, i need to hurry up and do mine so i can write a guide and put all this to rest once and for all

Re: fto awd?? vr4 Legnum
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:32 pm
by fto-007
Taz wrote:Damn, i need to hurry up and do mine so i can write a guide and put all this to rest once and for all

yes you do

so we can all see how hard and what little problems you had

Re: fto awd?? vr4 Legnum
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:57 pm
by Eltnot
Re: fto awd?? vr4 Legnum
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:16 pm
by Taz
fto-007 wrote:Taz wrote:Damn, i need to hurry up and do mine so i can write a guide and put all this to rest once and for all

yes you do

so we can all see how hard and what little problems you had

I know i will have a lot of problems as there is no where near enough actual progress done, only a lot of theory work, so i will be forking out a lot of dosh for someone to learn how to do this.
I guess an upside to it is that once the person who has done it (who i really want to be my guy coming over next month or two) can do it again relatively easyish...
Might do a proper guide and charge $15 a pop to recover some costs

wouldnt that be a

to those who are just waiting on me
Re: fto awd?? vr4 Legnum
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:20 pm
by Taz
and i will most likely be doing the awd conversion before the 4g, as i figure there is not much point putting a 4g into a fwd fto, so that will fix the problems of whether it can mate to a 6a12 or not - and if not i might just have to do a swap then and there
At that rate ill be eating beans out of a can in holey gloves around a trash can bonfire for the next 6 months.
But it will be interesting to say the least. Need to do a slight bit more research first before i take the idea to my guy, then we will have to plan it for some time and then source parts, then go ahead and try it out, get slowed down by all the problems as cmon it aint going to be smooth...
Then after all that a 4g should be a cake walk.....

i like to kid myself sometimes.
If all goes to plan i will be competing in time attack next year in the clubman (or if i win lotto - open) class and represent! But its more realistically looking like a 2013 WTAC project, with some saturday arvo sprints at lakeside first
Re: fto awd?? vr4 Legnum
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:14 am
by silverGPX
Or....
Buy an evo?