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Cheap Speed?

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:59 am
by ObsidianRadio
No, I'm not a drug addict...


My FTO's beautiful and all...But I'm going to need some serious vroom sometime soon!

My previous car was a 5.0L V8 pulling in excess of 270kw so I'm not expecting anything measurable to that but my motor's currently stock standard, I don't wish to go turbo for both financial and legal reasons (P plates) but trying to get to 100km/h on a freeway is bloody hard...It lacks the guts I need!


What can I do to this motor for minimal cost to at least get a little bit of power when i put my foot down?

4spd 'tronic V6...1995 GR. COME AT ME BRO!

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Re: Cheap Speed?

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:10 am
by phi-tec
haha wttc! well as most would say 'if you're looking for speed (power) then the fto was a bad choice)

i see uv already got a pod. mivec engine conv.. if u wanted? (20kw diff on stats)
otherwise id suggest, extractors/exhaust, not much else you could do without forking out a shitload in which case u might as well as bought a gpx etc.
good luck

Re: Cheap Speed?

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:53 am
by Bennoz
Couple of quick things, bin that intake pipe, grab a couple of 90 degree 3 inch silicone bends & a bit of steel pipe to make up something more free flowing.

Secondly, get the exhaust sorted. Directly below the motor where to the 2 banks of headers meetup is what we call the 'collector' or 'Y' pipe. Its a head on smash for the exhaust gasses & very restrictive. We bin that & get new sections made up. From there back, we up the whole tail section size from 2.25" to 2.5" and put high flow kit in there, such as a high flow cat, resonator & muffler. That alone will give you a quick 15-20 killerwasps.

Moving on from there, if it were me, I'd bin the slush box... its heavy & eats up a further 10kws.

Then start looking at a piggyback ECU & tune, another 10-15 kws there.

That's when you run into a bit of a brickwall though... not much else you can do from here without spending big bucks on hairdryers.

Re: Cheap Speed?

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:33 am
by bass_twitch
:lol: at op,
Mate if you are struggling to get to 100km/hr on the freeway you are doing it wrong.

You want serious power? Wait till you are off your ps and buy a turbo/etc faster car.
You want a seriously powered Fto? = $$$
You want a zippy, fun car? Do the mods Bennoz mentioned above and just enjoy it for what it is.

Disclaimer: iv never driven a tip gr, so if they really ARE that slow, then maybe consider a sale and upgrade?

Re: Cheap Speed?

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:49 am
by rock_it
bass_twitch wrote::lol: at op,

Disclaimer: iv never driven a tip gr, so if they really ARE that slow, then maybe consider a sale and upgrade?
+1

As the old saying goes.. "You can't polish a turd"

I don't mean to be harsh, but these cars are not known for speed. I love my FTO for what it is, but know there are a lot of faster machines.. Which is why I ride 1000cc motorbikes, and have my Evo..

The FTO is a nice looking car that handles great and has good fuel economy.. If you want anymore then wait till u are off your P's..

Re: Cheap Speed?

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:41 pm
by Eltnot
Looking at your other thread, those speakers in the boot won't be doing you any favours either.

Re: Cheap Speed?

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:50 pm
by Taz
Im sorry i must be the only one who has noticed.
You say you dont want to turbo because of legal reasons and your on your p's.
V8's and anything over 200kw is illegal too...so....why the sudden change of heart?
The 6a12 is not a fast engine by your standards and i would suggest saving up for a conversion IF you are set on the fto.
6a13tt or 4g63 would be the go - and you have till your off your p's to save

Re: Cheap Speed?

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:05 pm
by spetz
It all depends on price.
Being a non-MIVEC engine you could put in a 2.5L bottom end in it without difficulty, and then in time upgrade the cams, so you'd have a 2.5L DOHC.
As already mentioned, a manual gearbox will make a world of difference too

Re: Cheap Speed?

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:33 am
by BearOnFire
You can channel air from below the indicator( mould PVC pipe with heat gun to a rectangular shape) then connect a air pipe to the filter. With pods,more free flowing air, the better.

WTTC :)

Re: Cheap Speed?

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:50 am
by mattman
having a manual mivec fto i don't have a problem with power :)

Re: Cheap Speed?

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:57 am
by ObsidianRadio
Taz wrote:You say you dont want to turbo because of legal reasons and your on your p's.
V8's and anything over 200kw is illegal too...so....why the sudden change of heart?
Yeah about that...I lost my license which was still on SA's old laws, enabling P platers who acquire their Provisional license before September 2011 to be exempt from the high powered vehicle restrictions...I got my license back on a safer driver agreement, however I've been referred to the new laws and power restrictions!

Re: Cheap Speed?

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:40 am
by payaya
I don't care if you have super duper Mivec nothing really is going to give you a feeling of a motor 2.5 larger.

Re: Cheap Speed?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:24 pm
by illmotion

Re: Cheap Speed?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:04 pm
by Kustom
Expensive piece of sh*t actually.

Re: Cheap Speed?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:14 pm
by silverGPX
i know a way, it involves a holesaw and a bonnet.

Re: Cheap Speed?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:25 pm
by adzski
hey man i got the same thing happening myns just got a exhaust/extractors and its pretty quick when i put the cai on it will be bit quicker prob get it tunned but its enough power and its a street car to much power is dangerous whats the point u can only go the speed limit anyway

but my GR is a manual maybe could do a conversion from what i read yours is an auto? but not really worth it man just love the car for what it is

Re: Cheap Speed?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:35 pm
by ObsidianRadio
Just got it tuned and it's made a HUGE difference...So much better!!! I actually have throttle response now...

I'm having it dyno tested next week when the alternator's fixed and I'll see what the output is...

Re: Cheap Speed?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:46 pm
by Taz
Being an Auto GR, dont expect anything over 100kw

Re: Cheap Speed?

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 12:54 am
by ObsidianRadio
How much money will i be forking out if i wanted a manual convrsion? I'm talking transmission, labour...The lot! If i have an idea of how much, could be a possible investment...

Re: Cheap Speed?

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 1:05 am
by adzski
I really have no idea man but id imagine it would be exspensive I'm sure some one.can.answer it, maybe around a 1000 or more don't really no

This guy just done the conversion I'm.sure If you messaged him he'd tell u the cost

http://ftoaustralia.com/v3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=25142