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Final Gears - Swappable?
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:56 pm
by Orbit-Zzz
Hey Guys,
I'm new to the FTO world. Have a 95 Mivec GPR (I think) with the 4 speed auto tranny and have tried searching to see if this is possible but couldn't find a proper answer.
Refering to this link
http://www.mivec.co.uk/performancedata/index.htm is it possible to swap the final drive gear from the 5 speed auto / diff being 3.735 into the 4 speed which is 4.407?
Cheers,
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:01 pm
by ZFL45H1
First off welcome
Now u won't have a gpvr as where made 97 or after as for final drive I guess as long as u have the Same drive shaft sizes (as ftos have two different sizes with 25 spline and 27 spline) u should be right but I'm not sure on final drive but 100 percent about model of fto

Re: Final Gears - Swappable?
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:05 pm
by Taz
The GP was the early model of the GPR zflash but im fairly certain all GP/GPR's were 5 speed?
Re: Final Gears - Swappable?
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:29 pm
by Vectose
GP was the pre-facelift vR, but was only made in 1996.
Re: Final Gears - Swappable?
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:40 pm
by ZFL45H1
I knew I shouldn't of wrote anything haha oh well that's my learning for the day just in time to

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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:52 am
by spetz
ZFL45H1 wrote:First off welcome
Now u won't have a gpvr as where made 97 or after as for final drive I guess as long as u have the Same drive shaft sizes (as ftos have two different sizes with 25 spline and 27 spline) u should be right but I'm not sure on final drive but 100 percent about model of fto

Unlike a RWD, the diff and the final drive are separate on a FWD.
I don't know if the FD can be swapped, but why would you want to? It will yield worse acceleration, with the only real benefit being highway economy
Re: Final Gears - Swappable?
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:45 am
by Bennoz
Orbit-Zzz wrote:Hey Guys,
I'm new to the FTO world. Have a 95 Mivec GPR (I think) with the 4 speed auto tranny and have tried searching to see if this is possible but couldn't find a proper answer.
Refering to this link
http://www.mivec.co.uk/performancedata/index.htm is it possible to swap the final drive gear from the 5 speed auto / diff being 3.735 into the 4 speed which is 4.407?
Cheers,
Short answer is no. Yeah you can swap the final drive gear from around the diff with relative ease, but a ratio jump like that means you need the matching gear from the output shaft... the output shaft & final drive cog are one big piece of steel. Which means you'd have to buy an entire 5 speed box & be ripping to pieces. Better off just throwing the whole 5 spd box in & swapping tranny ECUs.
Re: Final Gears - Swappable?
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:56 am
by Taz
There is something in this world you don't know - and my new life mission is to find that something!
Re: Final Gears - Swappable?
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:04 pm
by Orbit-Zzz
Cool, thanks for the info guys.
I'll have to look at the model info in more detail, can you tell by looking at the VIN?
Yeah I was hoping for better economy for highway driving, not too worried about the acceleration at this stage but I guess finding a complete 5 speed setup would be fairly expensive?
Re: Final Gears - Swappable?
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:07 pm
by Sahin
The money you save from better economy on the highway is not going to equal what you spent on doing the swap for quite a long time...
Convert it to manual

Re: Final Gears - Swappable?
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:33 pm
by Orbit-Zzz
How expensive are manual swaps? They all seem to have a similar ratio to the 4 speed auto though.
Re: Final Gears - Swappable?
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:57 pm
by Kustom
You're not going to save money on fuel doing this unless you're planning on keeping the car till you die... even still you won't save much!
Also 5speed tip boxes are weaker and break more often.
Re: Final Gears - Swappable?
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:27 pm
by Daniel2019
Kustom wrote:You're not going to save money on fuel doing this unless you're planning on keeping the car till you die... even still you won't save much!
Also 5speed tip boxes are weaker and break more often.
And are also a bitch to get a hold of usually.
Re: Final Gears - Swappable?
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:09 am
by Bennoz
Orbit-Zzz wrote:How expensive are manual swaps? They all seem to have a similar ratio to the 4 speed auto though.
You can usually pick up conversion kits (box, pedals, clutch & flywheel, shifter & cables, dash cluster) for around the $1200 mark.
I recently converted my misses car, took me a weekend & 3 afternoons after work to finish it off.