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A question for you all...
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:57 pm
by ObsidianRadio
Okay, so throughout my studies in Law, I now have an assignment that must focus on a victimless law (nobody directly affected by offense), and question its social function within the community...
HERE'S THE QUESTION FOR YOU ALL;
Do the current vehicle modification laws perform a social function within the community?
I know most if not all of us have at least a minor dispute with these laws, so give me some examples and try and justify any social function you think the laws may perform! I must NOT be biased in this essay, so I need arguments supporting both for and against...
Have fun

Re: A question for you all...
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:36 pm
by silverGPX
Pft I'm not helping with your essay

Re: A question for you all...
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:29 pm
by Astron_Boy
silverGPX wrote:Pft I'm not helping with your essay

For once you get a thumbs up from me on that sort of comment.
I could give a hypothetical 'what if' on the consequences of others doing ones work in a situation that in the future determines the outcome of peoples lives.
If work cannot be done by the person who is responsible to do it, then that person should not attempt it.
i.e. I know not to hire you as my lawyer.
On a more serious note, I believe you should be doing research on previous threads, no isolated to this forum, and see how people react to such things as.
Exhaust level requirement.
P plate mods limitations and why.
etc.
Have fun

Re: A question for you all...
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:35 pm
by Retsub
Re: A question for you all...
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:39 pm
by Astron_Boy
Sorry, need me to Gen Y my sentence for you?

Re: A question for you all...
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:06 pm
by bjk
Astron_Boy wrote:I aint doin your sh*t bro.
EFGA.
(edited for generational accuracy)
Re: A question for you all...
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:45 pm
by ObsidianRadio
...I don't think you guys get it.
I'M TRYING TO CONDUCT A SURVEY HERE, YOU MORONS.
I am required to acquire the general views of various members of the public, and acquire opinions that are both for and against the matter

Re: A question for you all...
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:49 pm
by ObsidianRadio
ObsidianRadio wrote:I need arguments supporting both for and against...
As stated in the initial post. I've already written half the bloody thing, I just need various opinions to support my research.
I've read through and studied all of this so nobody's doing my sh*t for me
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/sa/c ... ta1961111/
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/ ... index.aspx
http://sa.gov.au/subject/Transport%2C+t ... components
http://sa.gov.au/subject/Transport,+tra ... ifications
Re: A question for you all...
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:29 pm
by bjk
Not sure if I've the right idea of it, but I remember being on my P plates and thinking it a little inconsistent that modifications to improve engine performance were illegal, but I could still drive a powerful stock car. i.e. putting a pod on my 1.8L four banger was a no-no when I could drive a commodore with a considerable amount more horsepower.
Re: A question for you all...
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:06 am
by SchumieFan
Yes
Re: A question for you all...
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:25 am
by Daniel2019
Yes, and no.
And the laws are inconsistent, plagued with grey areas and dont make any sense a lot of the time.
Re: A question for you all...
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:31 am
by Vectose
Daniel2019 wrote:Yes, and no.
And the laws are consistent, unplagued with grey areas and make sense a lot of the time.
Edited For Inaccuracy
There is your for argument.

Re: A question for you all...
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:38 am
by Daniel2019
Vectose wrote:Daniel2019 wrote:Yes, and no.
And the laws are consistent, unplagued with grey areas and make sense a lot of the time.
Edited For Inaccuracy
There is your for argument.

While I can understand stopping Habib from having a fully sick rexie with a 5 inch exhaust (likely to be from a truck

) that is like 100 decibels, why are modifications like tinting tail lights (without dimming any brake, reverse or indicator lights when they are being activated) illegal?
Re: A question for you all...
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:40 am
by bass_twitch
ObsidianRadio wrote:...I don't think you guys get it.
I'M TRYING TO CONDUCT A SURVEY HERE, YOU MORONS.
I am required to acquire the general views of various members of the public, and acquire opinions that are both for and against the matter

Well then set up a survey with proper questions etc, (use survey monkey) and then gather the results. You'll never get anything worthwhile doing it this way.
Plus survey monkey will give you statistics to use. survey results are always more believable with percentages

Re: A question for you all...
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 2:59 pm
by rock_it
ObsidianRadio wrote:...I don't think you guys get it.
I'M TRYING TO CONDUCT A SURVEY HERE, YOU MORONS.
I am required to acquire the general views of various members of the public, and acquire opinions that are both for and against the matter


Re: A question for you all...
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:30 pm
by destinationtoby

I like where this threads going
Re: A question for you all...
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:06 pm
by Kustom
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Re: A question for you all...
Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:44 am
by Cassf88
To answer your question:
yes they do. The main basis for them is they prevent unsafe modifications which inadvertently affect other road users.
Statistically young drivers are more likely to be in an accident even without modifications.
Young drivers are normally the ones who perform modifications to vehicle and more often illegal ones. This with inexperience increases the affect it has on society as it puts innocent people and property in danger.
Something as simple as illegal window tinting, at night, trying to reverse and having poor visibility- you never know what or who you could hit, injure or kill. This affects the community.
EG: If you hit a person you injure or kill them. Clearly this would affect an individual, family, friends, a local community society, etc.
If you hit property and damage it. This affects the individual party(ies) commercial and personal enterprise, communities and society in the form of levies, premiums, excesses (Sub-EG: as is the case you pay more on excess if you're younger driver in an accident).
Vehicle modification laws are trialed and tested. Yes, people can still have accidents while being in the confines of the law however, as they are within 'what is lawful', the above examples are either minimised or do not occur.
/end
hope this helps
Re: A question for you all...
Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:59 am
by destinationtoby
i beg to differ, so far ive only hit two kids this week due to my illegal tint
Re: A question for you all...
Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:28 am
by Taz
Thats 200 points toby
