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bigger heads and cams.

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:17 pm
by Kashikhan55
not sure if this topic has been discussed but want to know will getting bigger heads (both heads) and cams will it make much difference in terms of power and if so any approximate idea by how much?

had one mechanic that stated around 20kw of extra power while another said i'd be pulling at least 170-180 at the wheels.

Re: bigger heads and cams.

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:19 pm
by Sahin
lol

Re: bigger heads and cams.

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:20 pm
by Daniel2019
Dont.

Re: bigger heads and cams.

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:24 pm
by Kashikhan55
Daniel2019 wrote:Dont.

i know 170-180 that seems little farfetched however being a mechanic he seemed pretty convinced lol

and any specific reason you state don't?

Re: bigger heads and cams.

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:37 pm
by Daniel2019
Because the only available ones that aren't custom are RPW ones I believe. They're pretty much a prototype and very difficult and expensive to get running properly, if you can even get them set up at all. The cams in the FTO are pretty much as good as they're going to get anyway. It will be an endless money pit and won't be worth the gains. Not worth it and won't be as simple as you reckon.

See here for moar info http://ftoaustralia.com/v3/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=24430

Re: bigger heads and cams.

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:46 pm
by bjk
I don't think it's all quite so bad as that, but yeah, pretty expensive. Valandis seemed happy enough once the cams he got from RPW fit without issue, with the stock cam gears. I've also given it thought, but for the moolah it's not worth it. Maybe later, who knows, haha.

Re: bigger heads and cams.

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:53 pm
by Daniel2019
Not worth it. Stockies are good enough.

If you want, port out the heads and do a top end rebuild while youre at it. Screw aftermarket cams :lol:

Re: bigger heads and cams.

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:30 pm
by kiz
Or just chuck on a snail and away you go....

Re: bigger heads and cams.

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:08 pm
by bjk
kiz wrote:Or just chuck on a snail and away you go....
Except you have to do all of the associated things as well.

Re: bigger heads and cams.

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:09 pm
by Daniel2019
bjk wrote:
kiz wrote:Or just chuck on a snail and away you go....
Except you have to do all of the associated things as well.
Would probably not be much more expensive.

Re: bigger heads and cams.

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:12 pm
by bjk
True, true. I'm thinking I'll keep my FTO N/A purist, then boost something else for sh*ts'n'giggles.

Re: bigger heads and cams.

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:49 pm
by Bennoz
Be cheaper to boost. I got quotes on doing FTO heads, was almost 10 grand. 4 grand on cams alone.

Re: bigger heads and cams.

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:51 pm
by Daniel2019
Bennoz wrote:Be cheaper to boost. I got quotes on doing FTO heads, was almost 10 grand. 4 grand on cams alone.
Sell FTO, buy Galant.

x2 power + some profit.

Win.

Re: bigger heads and cams.

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 9:44 pm
by bjk
Guess it all depends on how much power you want, eh? And which end drives, and what the car looks like, etc.

I'll just save my pennies and make it a V8. :dreaming:

Re: bigger heads and cams.

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 10:20 pm
by SchumieFan
Daniel2019 wrote:
Bennoz wrote:Be cheaper to boost. I got quotes on doing FTO heads, was almost 10 grand. 4 grand on cams alone.
Sell FTO, buy Galant.

x2 power + some profit.

Win.
i always wanted a VR4 since about 2004, i finally had the opportunity to buy one about 3 months before i bought tweety... i sat in it and it was like a time warp, it was a 98 but felt like a 1990... my 95 COTY feels in the same era as my 09 VRX...

having said that i had a mate back home (loungesuite) on the msport forum who put an FTO interior in a legnum vr4... was fkn niiiiiiiice

Re: bigger heads and cams.

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 10:22 pm
by Daniel2019
SchumieFan wrote:
Daniel2019 wrote:
Bennoz wrote:Be cheaper to boost. I got quotes on doing FTO heads, was almost 10 grand. 4 grand on cams alone.
Sell FTO, buy Galant.

x2 power + some profit.

Win.
i always wanted a VR4 since about 2004, i finally had the opportunity to buy one about 3 months before i bought tweety... i sat in it and it was like a time warp, it was a 98 but felt like a 1990... my 95 COTY feels in the same era as my 09 VRX...

having said that i had a mate back home (loungesuite) on the msport forum who put an FTO interior in a legnum vr4... was fkn niiiiiiiice
Yeah the only problem is their age. Although having said that I don't mind what the interior is like as long as it has aircon and doesn't look like it's from the 70s/80s.

Re: bigger heads and cams.

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:19 am
by bjk
What's wrong with those eras?

Instead of finding Japanese trinkets from importation, you might just find hippy drugs! :lol:

Re: bigger heads and cams.

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:50 pm
by Technikhaus
SchumieFan wrote:
Daniel2019 wrote:
Bennoz wrote:Be cheaper to boost. I got quotes on doing FTO heads, was almost 10 grand. 4 grand on cams alone.
Sell FTO, buy Galant.

x2 power + some profit.

Win.
i always wanted a VR4 since about 2004, i finally had the opportunity to buy one about 3 months before i bought tweety... i sat in it and it was like a time warp, it was a 98 but felt like a 1990... my 95 COTY feels in the same era as my 09 VRX...

having said that i had a mate back home (loungesuite) on the msport forum who put an FTO interior in a legnum vr4... was fkn niiiiiiiice
wait, the FTO interior fitted?!?!
If so...... sweet!

Re: bigger heads and cams.

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:54 pm
by bass_twitch
Technikhaus wrote:
SchumieFan wrote:
Daniel2019 wrote:
Bennoz wrote:Be cheaper to boost. I got quotes on doing FTO heads, was almost 10 grand. 4 grand on cams alone.
Sell FTO, buy Galant.

x2 power + some profit.

Win.
i always wanted a VR4 since about 2004, i finally had the opportunity to buy one about 3 months before i bought tweety... i sat in it and it was like a time warp, it was a 98 but felt like a 1990... my 95 COTY feels in the same era as my 09 VRX...

having said that i had a mate back home (loungesuite) on the msport forum who put an FTO interior in a legnum vr4... was fkn niiiiiiiice
wait, the FTO interior fitted?!?!
If so...... sweet!
Any photos?

Re: bigger heads and cams.

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:04 pm
by SchumieFan
Blokes name was rhys... was one of the founders of Msport (which seems to be defunct now) might still be on mmc

this is going back to 2004