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engine oil and auto gearbox oil change - easy answer?

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:36 am
by bartyboo
Hi guys im after a easy answer about what oils to use as from what I have read its confusing.
I have a 95 non mivec 2.0v6, has around 220.. on clock, doesnt have tapping problem at all, i live in Hobart tasmania so gets cold here :) I dont speed or abuse cars so im a cruising sort.

Will a 10/40 oil be ok and what brand will do?
Also id like to change gearbox oil on my triptronic auto so is there
a guide and type of oil ect also, gearbox is fine so will I need full change.
Does gearbox use same filter as engine?
Cheers guys.

Re: engine oil and auto gearbox oil change - easy answer?

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:12 pm
by Sahin
I use castrol Edge 5w 30 fully synth
and for the auto box you're meant to use dex 3 Auto Transmission Fluid

Re: engine oil and auto gearbox oil change - easy answer?

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:14 pm
by Sahin
And it does use the same filter as the engine yes (well same part number anyway) just dont get a crappy brand repco one

and there is a guide to change the fluid just have a search as i cant be fucked lol

Re: engine oil and auto gearbox oil change - easy answer?

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:16 pm
by Sahin
I'd personally suggest Nulon over any other brand auto fluid by the way

Re: engine oil and auto gearbox oil change - easy answer?

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:21 pm
by Moused
Sahin wrote:I'd personally suggest Nulon over any other brand auto fluid by the way
I might have to give it a go myself.. Nulon seems to be known for blending fluids quite well (albeit rarely spoken about for some odd reason)..

I changed mine out with Castrol Dex III just the other week, to more apparent gear changes, which is pissing me off a bit

Re: engine oil and auto gearbox oil change - easy answer?

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:34 pm
by Moused
http://www.nulon.com.au/products/Automa ... ion_Fluids

Which fluid would you suggest? I've always strayed away from the multi-vehicle fluids, as a 'catch all' doesn't seem ideal.. Thoughts?

Re: engine oil and auto gearbox oil change - easy answer?

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:35 pm
by Sahin
Fully synth

Re: engine oil and auto gearbox oil change - easy answer?

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:41 pm
by bartyboo
percheapauto.com.au/Product/Nulon-100-Synthetic-Multi-Vehicle-Auto-Transmission-Fluid-4-Litre/164776

ok so that for gearbox?
were would I get filters from as ebay has bugger all lol
Supercheap also?
so a 10/40 fully synthetic will do? as I read more people using this but not sure on brand oil.

Re: engine oil and auto gearbox oil change - easy answer?

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:42 pm
by Sahin
z411 is the filter and yeah from supercheap

Re: engine oil and auto gearbox oil change - easy answer?

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:49 pm
by bartyboo
Nulon Hi-Tech Fast Flowing Synthetic Engine Oil - 10W-40, 6 Litre

Nulon engine oil any good also as they have 10/40

Also gearbox oil comes in 4lt is this so you buy another 1lt or 2 :)

Re: engine oil and auto gearbox oil change - easy answer?

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:13 pm
by Moused
bartyboo wrote:Nulon Hi-Tech Fast Flowing Synthetic Engine Oil - 10W-40, 6 Litre

Nulon engine oil any good also as they have 10/40

Also gearbox oil comes in 4lt is this so you buy another 1lt or 2 :)
I used Nulon engine oil in my old 89 Celica, to no dramas at all.. for a good 5-6 years.
The engine has 380ks on it today, and I'm confident it'll happily keep going...

As for your auto trans.. Around 4.4L will come out when you drop it, but another ~4 will remain in the trans - torque converter, etc..
Ideally you'll drop it, drive for awhile, and drop it again to change as much out as you can..
There are other ways, such as removing cooler lines and running the engine, replacing the fluid that comes out while it's running, but I feel the former is easier/safer.

Re: engine oil and auto gearbox oil change - easy answer?

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:56 pm
by bartyboo
Thanks people I might try Nulon in engine and box, as for the oil change in box
guide the pics are not showing so now im blind haha will try look into it more or
Find another guide, I liked picture books growing up :)

Re: engine oil and auto gearbox oil change - easy answer?

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:12 pm
by Moused
bartyboo wrote:Thanks people I might try Nulon in engine and box, as for the oil change in box
guide the pics are not showing so now im blind haha will try look into it more or
Find another guide, I liked picture books growing up :)
If you struggle to find anything, it's very straight forward.

The plug is massive. ~22mm beast of a thing on the bottom right hand side of the trans (looking from the front of the car)..
I got to mine without even jacking it up; you can see it by looking between the bumper and wheel.

You can get more out with the car flat anyways :thumright:

Re: engine oil and auto gearbox oil change - easy answer?

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:41 pm
by Sahin
Nah you're thinking of the manual box, on the auto the is 4 little bolts that drain it on the bottom of the box

Re: engine oil and auto gearbox oil change - easy answer?

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:44 pm
by Daniel2019

Re: engine oil and auto gearbox oil change - easy answer?

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:11 pm
by Sahin
Whatever lol i dont own an auto i just tried to remember lol

Re: engine oil and auto gearbox oil change - easy answer?

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:29 pm
by Vectose
And its 24mm on the manual. :lol:

Re: engine oil and auto gearbox oil change - easy answer?

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:07 pm
by bartyboo
So 3 bolts on bottom and drain oil from them why warm? Replace filter
and put new oil in or am I missing something, read something about oil lines and isnt old oil
still going to mix with new oil? Noob..

Re: engine oil and auto gearbox oil change - easy answer?

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:04 pm
by Moused
Sahin wrote:Nah you're thinking of the manual box, on the auto the is 4 little bolts that drain it on the bottom of the box
Then what the hell did I drain out? 8O lol
Is it different on the GR?

Edit: I managed to find a pic from an auto post, I have the same drain plug

Image

This post might be useful for you, barty.. Given you wanted pics
http://www.fto-ireland.com/forum/viewto ... 11&t=11979
bartyboo wrote:So 3 bolts on bottom and drain oil from them why warm? Replace filter
and put new oil in or am I missing something, read something about oil lines and isnt old oil
still going to mix with new oil? Noob..
You want it warm so it drains out quicker, and easier. Same story with the engine oil.
You'll get about half out during the drain, refill and drive for awhile (left mine for a week, even).. The new and old fluid will mix
Drain and refill again.. This will cleanse it further..

Imagine emptying half a bucket of muddy water, and refilling it with clean water.. 50/50 mix.
Repeat it again, and you'll end up with mostly clean water...

Let the engine cool before throwing anything back in, too.. Just to be safe.

Re: engine oil and auto gearbox oil change - easy answer?

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:59 am
by bartyboo
Yes now that makes sence moused! Not ready to do mine yet but im getting ready :P
so you didn't have 3 drain plugs? Haven't been under mine yet