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will this make a decent sound set up

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 6:53 pm
by shue
i'm finally getting round to fixing my sound set up. i was digging thru the alpine catalogue and decided to go for the type s speakers,
front speakers 6 1/2 inch component
rear speakers 6 1/2 inch coaxial or 6*9 coaxial - which one of those 2 is better??? or should i get component's for the back too?
and whats the difference between a 4/3/2 amp and a 2/1 amp. ?

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 8:50 pm
by khunjeng
when it comes to the front : i went splits with my own cross-over - adjustbale one. 6 & 1/2" driver in the doors...tweaters in the dash.

For the back. I went 6x9 cos it is a direct replacement for the stock speakers. easily done took me less than 40min. Again I went ones with seperate, adjustbale cross overs although not such a big deal.

Now if u going to run amps and subs (which I don't) 6-6.5" in the back will be fine. But if your happy with the amount of Bass your gonna be getting outta the 6x9s then thats the cheapest option.

Now 6x9...3way etc?? I go 2 way...why?? cos I'm really just using them for bass and some medium/high frequencies...I use the speakers in the front for all the medium to high..thats they way i did it anyway!

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:07 pm
by frozenwaffles
ok dude, sounds like you are heading for my system exactly. i have the type s splits in the front, they sound fantastic.
i have the 6 by 9s in the back, they are great too.
i run the front splits off channel one and two of a 4 channel v12 alpine amp. my 12 type s sub runs of 3/4 in bridge mode. i then run a cheap sony 2 channel amp for the rears.
if you want great spl and no distortion, do not run any speaker from a head unit!
i have a new sony GT700D head unit. best unit on market...why?
it has 4 independant 13 band eqs with full time alignment. these are the two most critical item for getting you car sound great!
if you in sydney come and have a look at my baby if you want.

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:13 pm
by khunjeng
thats some good advice...or be lazy like me and run it from the head unit...to me its fine...coulnd't be bothered with the amp at this stage but would be a better option for sure.

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 10:36 pm
by joey
that's sound like a great set up my set is all kenwoods 6 inch split at the fronts and 6 inchs and the back and one sub and all runng on a four channel and a mono block and the head is a XXV-01D i'm more of a person who like there music with deep bass
it really up to you what type of sound are you after

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 12:50 pm
by shue
frozenwaffles it is your headunit i'm getting if u ever decide to pm me and let me know :wink: yea speakers ive decided on the type s splits up front.6*9's at the rear. would a 4 channel amp cover the 4 speakers? i'll get the subs and a mono block for them at a later stage with a proper boot install

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:49 pm
by mxysxy
Do multi channel amplifiers have multiple RCA entries?

I can’t understand how an amp can distinguish the difference between front and rear speakers if all running from one amp. Also the difference between left and right speakers.
Headunits have (+/-) outlet for each corner of the car, plus a RCA rear jack for the subs.

Now if I am running both front speakers from one amp, where do I connect 2 sets of cables from headunit? Front left (+/-) and front right (+/-)

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:21 pm
by joey
it really up to what head unit are you getting becuase some head unit come with 1 pair rcas or 2 or 3 pairs

pair rca should cover fronts and other rca should cover rear/sub and the third rca should be only for sub control

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:22 pm
by joey
question what head unit are you running with and i find out for you

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:55 pm
by mxysxy
joey wrote:question what head unit are you running with and i find out for you
KENWOOD 50W X 4, MODEL KDC-5023

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:31 pm
by khunjeng
mxysxy wrote:Do multi channel amplifiers have multiple RCA entries?

I can’t understand how an amp can distinguish the difference between front and rear speakers if all running from one amp. Also the difference between left and right speakers.
Headunits have (+/-) outlet for each corner of the car, plus a RCA rear jack for the subs.

Now if I am running both front speakers from one amp, where do I connect 2 sets of cables from headunit? Front left (+/-) and front right (+/-)
essentially in a basic setup eithrr does your head unit...its only stereo i.e. L+R so an amp is the same really. the fader simply controls the volume from Front to Back...not much else so u can balance the sound the way u want.

now with some serious DSP...thats another story.

not that I'm a expert in car amps...but u run ut head unit to the amp...amp to the speakers. RCAs are simply shielded cables that have the +Ve in the pin and the -Ve on the outer (i think can't remeber) suposed to be better etc...cos of the shield..in the end...current capacity is all that matters and that too is another story and between the headunit and the amp...not much current is required..but shielding is good...assuming is grounded properly at each end otherwise its useless and I have seen a lot of uselesss setups that cost packets...