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Roof Dynamics
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 6:42 pm
by Nacho
I can't seem to find any information on the internet or the workshop manual about this.
Can someone let me know whether the roof is all one piece of bare chassis, or whether it is connected to a frame on both sides of the car above the windows, or whether there's just one piece of frame running through the middle of the roof?
God this question is hard to verbalise. Sorry if I sound like a complete moron. Feel free to reword the question so it makes more sense.
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 7:51 pm
by BorepYano
if it'll help i can take a couple of photos of my roof from the inside (the lining and interior panels r still off lol)
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:02 pm
by oodLes
I think dstocks has pictures of inside the roof and at least some diagrams on the CompleFTO website, check there.
Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:03 am
by payaya
there is nothing on the top, otherwise the sunroof would be an option.
Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 3:22 am
by BorepYano
ok too drunk to take photos now ayway lol....
bitch bring me some water
(sryt hat was so the gf can read it, i think she's going ot hit me across the head nowl lol)
sunroof
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 6:50 pm
by dstocks
Certainly on the sunroof version, there is a subframe running up either side and front and rear. This is where the glue that rusts the roof in the pre-facelift models is a problem. In the sunroof version, there is another subframe around the sunroof itself.
Hope this helps...
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 7:15 am
by Nacho
How about a car without a sunroof?
Sorry like I said it's very hard to type what I'm actually asking. Maybe I can draw a pic?
Hope this doesn't look too retarded!
Ok this is a retarded pic of the roof. What I'm asking is whether the roof has a frame marked out like the red? Or maybe has extra reinforcement in the middle like the blue? Or is it all just one piece acting as a frame?
Definitely the red
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:47 pm
by dstocks
Definitely the red and maybe also the blue. Havent taken a standard one apart. Might see if I can get a definitive answer to you on that one over the next day or 2 as I have one mostly disassembled I could have a look at
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:01 pm
by SchumieFan
from memory i think there is no BLUE
seem to recall seeing a rolled fto that had a buckled roof in the middle
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:02 pm
by SchumieFan
btw.... WHY!?
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 9:49 pm
by Nacho
Well I'm actually just wondering whether the roof and I guess side/rearish panel are all one panel and can be removed. Once again I have failed the verbal automotive exam.
Well from what I can see there's no breaks in between the roof and side panel so I'm just wondering whether it's attached using bolts or is actually welded onto the frame......if there is a frame
But I think now we know......yay! Is that your final answer? All the red?
OK
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:47 pm
by dstocks
OK, without spending a half hour removing the lining, I can say that im 95% sure there is no bar (im afraid, no matter how nicely you ask sitting outside at 10:30 at night to get the extra 5% is not going to happen).
I shone a light down the side of the lining and across the back (there is no back window in the shell). From what I can see, there is no bar I can see.
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:54 pm
by Nacho
That's cool man! I appreciate the feedback. Do you think that the whole roof and side panel are welded to the chassis frame? Or attached like the other panels on the vehicle?
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:13 pm
by Liquidity
Thinking about a sunroof? or rust?
sunroof
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:37 pm
by dstocks
Im guessing a sunroof
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:39 pm
by Nacho
Neither......just want to take the whole roof and side panel off........if it comes off.
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:13 pm
by tarkus
Joel
the roof will be welded to the door pillars etc all the way round, thats why its called a "monoque chassis".
If you are thinking of making it into a convertable, forget it. You would need to add heaps of extra support around the door pillars etc. You might get away with some of it if you had a full roll cage.
A chain saw would be the way to go if you really want to take it off.
Cya Saturday
Tarkus
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:02 pm
by Nacho
tarkus wrote:Joel
the roof will be welded to the door pillars etc all the way round, thats why its called a "monoque chassis".
If you are thinking of making it into a convertable, forget it. You would need to add heaps of extra support around the door pillars etc. You might get away with some of it if you had a full roll cage.
A chain saw would be the way to go if you really want to take it off.
Cya Saturday
Tarkus
Well Einstein.....why didn't you tell me that in the first place?
I'm not a big fan of convertibles, this was more of a curiousity kinda question. That's all I needed to know, is the roof welded to the chassis or not.