Roof Dynamics

Nacho · Post by **Nacho** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 6:42 pm

I can't seem to find any information on the internet or the workshop manual about this.

Can someone let me know whether the roof is all one piece of bare chassis, or whether it is connected to a frame on both sides of the car above the windows, or whether there's just one piece of frame running through the middle of the roof?

God this question is hard to verbalise. Sorry if I sound like a complete moron. Feel free to reword the question so it makes more sense.

Post by **BorepYano** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 7:51 pm

if it'll help i can take a couple of photos of my roof from the inside (the lining and interior panels r still off lol)

oodLes · Post by **oodLes** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:02 pm

I think dstocks has pictures of inside the roof and at least some diagrams on the CompleFTO website, check there.

payaya · Post by **payaya** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:03 am

there is nothing on the top, otherwise the sunroof would be an option.

Post by **BorepYano** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 3:22 am

ok too drunk to take photos now ayway lol....
bitch bring me some water

(sryt hat was so the gf can read it, i think she's going ot hit me across the head nowl lol)

Post by **dstocks** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 6:50 pm

Certainly on the sunroof version, there is a subframe running up either side and front and rear. This is where the glue that rusts the roof in the pre-facelift models is a problem. In the sunroof version, there is another subframe around the sunroof itself.

Hope this helps...

Nacho · Post by **Nacho** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 7:15 am

How about a car without a sunroof?

Sorry like I said it's very hard to type what I'm actually asking. Maybe I can draw a pic?

Hope this doesn't look too retarded!

Ok this is a retarded pic of the roof. What I'm asking is whether the roof has a frame marked out like the red? Or maybe has extra reinforcement in the middle like the blue? Or is it all just one piece acting as a frame?

Post by **dstocks** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:47 pm

Definitely the red and maybe also the blue. Havent taken a standard one apart. Might see if I can get a definitive answer to you on that one over the next day or 2 as I have one mostly disassembled I could have a look at

SchumieFan · Post by **SchumieFan** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:01 pm

from memory i think there is no BLUE

seem to recall seeing a rolled fto that had a buckled roof in the middle

SchumieFan · Post by **SchumieFan** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:02 pm

btw.... WHY!?

Nacho · Post by **Nacho** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 9:49 pm

Well I'm actually just wondering whether the roof and I guess side/rearish panel are all one panel and can be removed. Once again I have failed the verbal automotive exam.

Well from what I can see there's no breaks in between the roof and side panel so I'm just wondering whether it's attached using bolts or is actually welded onto the frame......if there is a frame

But I think now we know......yay! Is that your final answer? All the red?

Post by **dstocks** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:47 pm

OK, without spending a half hour removing the lining, I can say that im 95% sure there is no bar (im afraid, no matter how nicely you ask sitting outside at 10:30 at night to get the extra 5% is not going to happen).

I shone a light down the side of the lining and across the back (there is no back window in the shell). From what I can see, there is no bar I can see.

Nacho · Post by **Nacho** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:54 pm

That's cool man! I appreciate the feedback. Do you think that the whole roof and side panel are welded to the chassis frame? Or attached like the other panels on the vehicle?

Liquidity · Post by **Liquidity** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:13 pm

Thinking about a sunroof? or rust?

Post by **dstocks** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:37 pm

Im guessing a sunroof

Nacho · Post by **Nacho** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:39 pm

Neither......just want to take the whole roof and side panel off........if it comes off.

tarkus · Post by **tarkus** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:13 pm

Joel

the roof will be welded to the door pillars etc all the way round, thats why its called a "monoque chassis".

If you are thinking of making it into a convertable, forget it. You would need to add heaps of extra support around the door pillars etc. You might get away with some of it if you had a full roll cage.

A chain saw would be the way to go if you really want to take it off.

Cya Saturday

Tarkus

Nacho · Post by **Nacho** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:02 pm

tarkus wrote:Joel

the roof will be welded to the door pillars etc all the way round, thats why its called a "monoque chassis".

If you are thinking of making it into a convertable, forget it. You would need to add heaps of extra support around the door pillars etc. You might get away with some of it if you had a full roll cage.

A chain saw would be the way to go if you really want to take it off.

Cya Saturday

Tarkus

Well Einstein.....why didn't you tell me that in the first place?

I'm not a big fan of convertibles, this was more of a curiousity kinda question. That's all I needed to know, is the roof welded to the chassis or not.