I Cant Feel Mivec Kick In No-More HELP!!!

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I Cant Feel Mivec Kick In No-More HELP!!!

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Guy's I cant feel Mivec Kick In after 5 or 6,000 RPM.

The car was at The machanics For 2 days. . Getting New Seals Cam Seals and Krankshaft Seals.

I also Got The Timing Blet changed & I got New Spark plagues.

I got The Gasket Re-Sealed...Took The Old Salastic Off put new on.

To Be Honest The engine was half pulled apart.

Now the Car is running Bueatiful i am soo Happy.

BUT!!!!!!

I am soo Angry that i cant feel MIVEC no-more i cant feel that huge forse i had when it got to 5,000RPM.

For F*** Sake what is its Problem Now.

anyone please have any idea.
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Sorry to hear, but maybe they took your version r engine out and threw in a spare GR engine they had laying around.

Give me the name of the mechanic so I know never to go there... I'll just stick with Maytech in Arncliffe.
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Well they have might of taken the top part of the head off (cam holder) and when putting it back on they might of put to much sealant on and it has got into the oil galleries and restricting oil pressure to the hydrolic pins which activate MIVEC.

Or the harness that goes to the oil control valve was not connected properly or was damaged.
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or its so smooth u don't feel it kick it!!
because i never feel it kick in... change over is too smooth with mivec in a fto unlike VTEC YO!!!!!... i can only notice the audible difference
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jonowong wrote:or its so smooth u don't feel it kick it!!
because i never feel it kick in... change over is too smooth with mivec in a fto unlike VTEC YO!!!!!... i can only notice the audible difference
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hmmm interesting i mean it res hard and i look at my revs but they stay the same the whole way through till 8,000rpm.

they usually rev harder and get there harder.

hmmm i think BigPitty is right you do have a good point at which thats what they did.
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Does it have less power? If so, it sounds like they got the timing belt on wrong......off by a tooth will do it.
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jonowong wrote:or its so smooth u don't feel it kick it!!
because i never feel it kick in... change over is too smooth with mivec in a fto unlike VTEC YO!!!!!... i can only notice the audible difference
But how can that be ? ? ?

i don't get it. . Mivec u feel you have to feel it.
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Bennoz wrote:Does it have less power? If so, it sounds like they got the timing belt on wrong......off by a tooth will do it.
No No Plenty of Power. . Running Perfectly Fine. . Just that Mivec dont Kick in...

So far i think BigPitty has the answer. . But could it be something else.
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you get more power but theres no kick because change over is smooth no significant drop in torque if u look at a dyno sheet of a mivec fto compared to a VTEC YO!!!!!
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jonowong wrote:you get more power but theres no kick because change over is smooth no significant drop in torque
That is exacly what mine does... No drop in torgue u can maybe feel abit of a kick but not much just a smooth chnge over ave new spark plagues new timing belt and rubber seals why cant we be like toyota and use aliminum seals so they don't leak i don't have to worry about that now.

but i think your right jonowong.
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Post by noccers »

I just took mine out, and I must say, I can't feel anything noticable when it enters in to MiVEC mode other than a torque increase -- no 'kick' to speak of.

Maybe you had a slight problem before and they fixed it. Give them a call and thank them :)
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dude.. Maybe your right...But is'nt that when Mivec Mode turns on U feel a Little More power Pulling...

wel Mine stays the same from 3-4000RPM till 8,000RPM.

I can feel a little bt of a Increase in Trgue But th Revs Use to get tere a lot faster. But now its the same the whle way till the end.
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noccers wrote: Maybe you had a slight problem before and they fixed it. Give them a call and thank them :)
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Post by bigpitty1 »

If you can hear an audible difference when going past 5,500 rpm, its probably working fine, you will probably have to listen hard to see if both banks are going into MIVEC.
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mmm. . i'll see tommorrow and let you guy's no.
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Post by Delvance »

As bigpitty1 said, just turn off any music, open both windows and listen to the engine. The note change when mivec engages is really obvious to me and all the passengers that have been in my car before. Definitely louder and more uhhh... solid ?

Seems on my car, mivec comes in at exactly 5800 rpm, i also find it easiest to hear the sound change in 2nd gear as the revs climb up slower.

Note: no kick when mivec engages here, maybe just a tad bit faster acceleration for a 1000rpm or so.
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Post by khunjeng »

MIVEC is *~dreamy~*...its no turbo guys its not a massive difference...

u can hear it easily past 6000prm.
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Post by Oliver89 »

We are all aware of that mate.

Im just sayen i could really feel the difference before and now i cant feel it Open up like it was opening up before.

I wanna no why ?

New Seals
New Timing Belt
New Spark Plagues
New Elastic Around Gasket
& Bearings were put on there correct tooths.

The Car Revs really good though when it gets to 5,500RPM i cant feel the Motor Open up like before.

I just feel it stay the same the whole way through.
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khunjeng wrote:MIVEC is *~dreamy~*...its no turbo guys its not a massive difference...

u can hear it easily past 6000prm.
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