Engine start then die and also cut out while driving !!

kni8ht · Post by **kni8ht** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:23 am

Hi all, wonder if anyone come across this issue.

The engine will fire up and rev to about 2,500 rpm and then drop to 0 and engine cut out. (from start to stop is about 3 sec)

Got the car look at and the Mechanic said is the fuel pump... so $300 later all seems fine, the following day... something happens.

This time was in the middle of driving on the road.

The only way to drive the car is to rev it continuously as soon as I stop it will cut out. Sometimes if I rev it for about 30-60 sec the car will run normal for about 20min or so and the same issue returns. The idling is very low ..come to the 0 mark.

The only thing done recently, I had my Oil/Oil Filter changed about 2 week ago.

So I come to believe it might be one of the following (might be wrong too)

-Air intake
-Fuel Filter (can't remember last time it got changed)
-Fuel line
-Spark plugs

any one come across this before?, any help is appreciated.

('95 GPX with no modification)

oodLes · Post by **oodLes** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:12 am

Can't be the air intake, or at least I can't see how it could prevent it from revving harder unless theres a massive blockage in it somewhere and it can't get any more air after that certain point.

If theres no sputtering I can't guess that its the spark plugs either. I'm sure the more mechanically minded could have some better guesses though.

Post by **Bennoz** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:08 am

Stepper motor?

zhong · Post by **zhong** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 10:59 am

kni8ht wrote:The only thing done recently, I had my Oil/Oil Filter changed about 2 week ago.

get your mechanic to check your starter motor.

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mr-charisma · Post by **mr-charisma** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:05 pm

First things first; Are you getting any ECU Error codes?
http://www.ftowa.com/html/workshop/workshopart07.html

mr-charisma · Post by **mr-charisma** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:07 pm

Bennoz wrote:Stepper motor?

BAHAHAHA! Love the link Ben!

cb · Post by cb » Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:44 pm

me too!!!! I havent done the ECU Error code thing because i can't find that bloody diagnostic control unit, however mine only does it when its cold.... any ideas?

mr-charisma · Post by **mr-charisma** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:52 pm

cb wrote:me too!!!! I havent done the ECU Error code thing because i can't find that bloody diagnostic control unit, however mine only does it when its cold.... any ideas?

What have you tried?

cb · Post by cb » Sat Aug 04, 2007 1:47 pm

Only thing I have done is wound the screw out a bit and it helps a little, I'm about to go out and try and find that diagnostic control terminal and do an ECU error code check. How do i pull the plug off the stepper motor to make sure no gunk is in it?

payaya · Post by **payaya** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 4:36 pm

I cant believe how many times this question gets asked!!!

khunjeng · Post by **khunjeng** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 9:34 pm

payaya wrote:I cant believe how many times this question gets asked!!!

believe it! hehehe

kni8ht · Post by **kni8ht** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:46 am

thanks guys, took your advise, so today I try to cleaned the stepper motor if it can get a temporary fix.

Man is dirty with bit oil and carbon . is it normal?

After it been clean, it seems ok but tonite took it for a drive. very low rev idle time, but engine did not cut down.. yet.

So I think I might need to get a new one

anyone know where I can get a new one?

izonme · Post by **izonme** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 2:31 am

Disconnect to car battery for 30min so the computer resets then connect it back up then start the car and let the car run for 30min and this should fix it.

This is what I do because it is something to do with the Stepper motor it has to find the cars idle point or something like that.

khunjeng · Post by **khunjeng** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:08 pm

affirmative on that one....if it still doesnt fix it...maybe its buggered.

kni8ht · Post by **kni8ht** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:17 pm

thanks izonme and khunjeng for the advise, looks like that done the trick.

I took it for a drive today (10-15min) and it has not break on me yet...

Will drive a few more times just to confirm, thanks again.

khunjeng · Post by **khunjeng** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:07 pm

kni8ht wrote:thanks izonme and khunjeng for the advise, looks like that done the trick.

I took it for a drive today (10-15min) and it has not break on me yet...

Will drive a few more times just to confirm, thanks again.

wicked!! enjoy normal idle...

cb · Post by cb » Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:08 am

how do you clean the stepper motor? and solenoids on alternator?

Noxarc1 · Post by **Noxarc1** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:43 pm

Just happened to me - my car did not want to idle. The stepper motor had died. cost me about $300 to fix. They can use an stepper motor from an hyundai elantra apparently.

Shahrez · Post by **Shahrez** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:53 pm

hmmm cost me $150 to replace with labour. Except it was brought in from Sydney down here to perth? Mitsi motors quoted some bull saying they will have to take parts of engine of because it is an import and hence i have to pay for that and then pay for stepper motor which they will bring in from Japan and blah blah. Told them to get f'd and got it done within 3 days from my Autoelectrician!

izonme · Post by **izonme** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:18 am

Ok that you fixed it then.

FTO AUSTRALIA

Engine start then die and also cut out while driving !!

Engine start then die and also cut out while driving !!

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