Tiptronic switching

droo · Post by **droo** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 2:57 pm

I really should go for a drive in one of these to try it, but:

Coming from a manual driving background, i'm curious to know how long does it take in your tiptronic FTO to switch up and down gears? is it realtively instentaneous/ .5seconds to switch or less?

I've driven a few late model tiptronic magna's and figure that the FTO's tiptronic is very similar.. (hence my first sentace).

Post by **smorison** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 3:21 pm

faster than you can shift in a manual

FTO338 · Post by **FTO338** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 3:30 pm

If u compare it to Audi, BMW, Porches whos also renown for their Tip box, then the FTO/Mitsubitshi Tip is a bit slow, it does have a very small delay. But if you got use 2 it, & time it right, it would be pretty close to a manual.

Post by **smorison** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 7:06 pm

FTO338 wrote:If u compare it to Audi, BMW, Porches whos also renown for their Tip box, then the FTO/Mitsubitshi Tip is a bit slow, it does have a very small delay. But if you got use 2 it, & time it right, it would be pretty close to a manual.

1 -> 2 can be a little slow however the rest for me are very quick...

Slither · Post by **Slither** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 10:42 pm

If the car is still kinda cold it seems to take a second or so to change in mine, but once its warmed up it does it straight away

i have to say though, downshift from 2nd to 1st does take a good second or 2 no matter how warm the engine is!! does anyne know why??

fto617 · Post by **fto617** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 11:04 pm

dude dont downshift from 2nd to 1st...
its not good for the gearbox !
i killed it because of this...

Slither · Post by **Slither** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 11:10 pm

well downshiftin from 2nd to 1st while goin 100k's is not good for the gearbox

and besides thats not what killed your gearbox, u physically can't do that, the gearbox wont let u

ruchi · Post by **ruchi** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 11:36 pm

you can't downshift from 2nd to 1st doing 100kmh in a Tip FTO.

When you use the tip shifter you are not actually changing gears, instead you are flicking a switch which sends a signal to the car asking it to change gears.

Unlike a manual where you can change a gear anytime you like, even when doing so would cause damage, with a tip box, it will change the gears to provide the most optimal and safest gear change. It is for this reason that it takes a little longer to shift from 2nd to 1st. On the plus side, you can't damage a tip box accidentally like you can a manual, even if you try, you cannot downshift when the revs are too high and you cannot up shift when the revs are too low, the car will just ignore the fact that you are pushing the tip lever.

fto617 · Post by **fto617** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 12:34 am

hmm i dont get what happened den
y mechanic pulled out the gearbox but he didnt tel me anything
so i'm gona get the tranny guys to go to the mechanic and grab the gearbox to have a look
can those guys fix the gearbox without having my car?

ruchi · Post by **ruchi** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 12:48 am

As we have discussed in detail, in another thread, there is a high probability that you have damaged your torque convertor and not your gearbox. Lets not go over it all again in this thread.

FTOluv · Post by **FTOluv** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 12:58 am

the tipbox against a manual in stock trim is 0.6 faster in the 1/4 mile.

fto617 · Post by **fto617** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 2:01 am

sorry for these unrlated stuff to the thread
but...
my mechanic said he pulled out the gearbox aready
so i just want to know if the transmission guys can fix the gearbox/torque converter without having the whole car???
because i am planning to get them to jsut take away my gearbox and check it out?
is the torque converter WITH the gearbox or what?
sorry but me not very mechanical

salacious · Post by **salacious** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 3:53 am

In a manual the crankshaft is directly connected to the flywheel, in an auto it connects to a drive plate.

On the gearbox side the first thing in a manual is the clutch and in an auto it is the torque converter. The torque converter is made up from a Turbine, stator and Pump. The Pump is fixed to the flywheel and the turbine is connected to the transmission with the stator sitting between them. Since you don't have any direct connection between the parts the blades push the fluid around. What can happen is that these blades fail and the fluid no longer moves hence no drive.

I believe that you have to disconnect the torque converter from the engine to remove the tip box.

from
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/torque-converter.htm

Brian

SilentBob · Post by **SilentBob** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 7:52 pm

FTOluv wrote:the tipbox against a manual in stock trim is 0.6 faster in the 1/4 mile.

ahhh manual faster than auto i think you mean

SilentBob