ripping an engine out

djjones · Post by **djjones** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:14 pm

i know its not going to be easy but what is the easiEST way to take an engine out? its a 94 gpx tip if that makes any difference? do you disconnect the gearbox or take it out with it? thanks

Post by **dstocks** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:05 pm

I tend to drop it through the bottom and lift the car up and drag it out if that helps

Dras · Post by **Dras** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:19 pm

It is a fun task. I did it over Easter this year.

You can pull the motor + gearbox together out either up through the bonnet or down if you can lift the car high enough. Down would be easier because if you choose to go up, you will have to tilt the motor + gearbox at quite an angle to clear everything.

Post by **Bennoz** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:34 pm

Yeah, I go down & under (no pun)

Astron_Boy · Post by **Astron_Boy** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:37 pm

Bennoz wrote:Yeah, I go down & under (no pun)

More seriously, I have just always used a crane, always seemed easier to me...

Post by **Bennoz** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:49 pm

Astron_Boy wrote:
Bennoz wrote:Yeah, I go down & under (no pun)

More seriously, I have just always used a crane, always seemed easier to me...

Yeah but then you gotta pull the bonnet off. Hassle.

And I dunno about you, but I can never f**ken line it back up again properly

FTO-BOY · Post by **FTO-BOY** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:34 pm

How do you lift the car up high enough to clear it going down using without using a hoist?

Kustom · Post by **Kustom** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:46 pm

FTO-BOY wrote:How do you lift the car up high enough to clear it going down using without using a hoist?

Use some big ass mother fuckn ramps

or... just do this

djjones · Post by **djjones** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:27 pm

ok so its going to be up because i dont have a hoist
is the tip to manual conversion way easier with the engine out?

Dras · Post by **Dras** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:31 pm

It is a little easier but if the only thing you will be doing is a manual conversion then it is seriously not worth the effort. If you will be doing a timing belt service at the same time then that is a different story.

Post by **dstocks** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:33 pm

How do you lift the car up high enough to clear it going down using without using a hoist?

Well, I use the bucket on the tractor actually, but you probably dont have one of those either.

djjones · Post by **djjones** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:47 pm

i know this is probably asking a lot here but anyone know like basic steps to take the engine out the top? i've undone all the wiring, bonnet off, and ive got a crane. thanks

Post by **Bennoz** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:20 am

lol, done the crossmember, lower engine mounts, hubs, driveshafts & exhaust?

rock_it · Post by **rock_it** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:50 am

Bennoz wrote:
And I dunno about you, but I can never f**ken line it back up again properly

Your f**ken tellin me...

Dras · Post by **Dras** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:56 am

First off, make sure you have a tilter for the crane, you will need it.

Rough steps involved are:
Loosen crown nut on the drive shafts
Disconnect fuel pump from under the back seat
Start the car and allow it to stall
Remove bonnet
Remove battery and tray
Remove air intake
Raise car on axle stands
Remove wheels
Remove accessory belts
Drain coolant, engine oil, gearbox oil, power steering fluid and optinally the AC gas
Remove intake manifold and throttle body
Disconnect wiring loom and move out of the way
Remove radiator, fans and hoses
Remove coolant hoses going into the firewall
Remove crossmember
Remove drive shafts
Remove power steering pump
Either remove the AC pump altogether or just remove it from the motor and move it out of the way
Disconnect the fuel lines
Support the motor + gearbox
Remove the engine mounts
Tilt the engine and then lift

djjones · Post by **djjones** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:09 pm

thanks i'll have a go at that. pretty much reverse order for installation?

Dras · Post by **Dras** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:43 pm

Yup.

Good idea to replace the fuel filter while it is out. Much easier that way.

djjones · Post by **djjones** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:35 pm

ok so i got the old engine out of he tip ok just undid the bolts around the torque converter.
i am now stumped on getting the engine out of the manual wreck.
the bolts/nuts on the flywheel are a weird-ass fitting and wont come off (i think somewhere between 13 and 14mm but not a normal hex head). do these have to come off to take engine out without gearbox?
so the engine is starting to come off the gearbox but just havent got enough room to the left to get it all the way out
thanks

Dras · Post by **Dras** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:04 pm

It sounds like you are looking at the bolts on the back of the flywheel, is that correct? They don't need to be (and should not be) undone.

Once the bolts that hold the gearbox to the engine are out, the gearbox will pull away from the motor. From there, you are left with a gearbox and a engine with a clutch attached. There should now be a number of small bolts that hold the clutch assembly to the flywheel around the outside of the clutch, these should come undone fairly easily and the clutch assembly should come away. The only thing left at this point is the flywheel. There are a few narrow headed nuts that hold the flywheel to the crank shaft near the centre of the flywheel. These are quite hard to undo as they are held in place by a 'permanent' strength thread locker. A rattle gun is your friend here or failing that, a long breaker bar and a heavy hammer / mallet.

As a side note, it is a good idea to use a new clutch rather than reusing the old and get the clutch + flywheel balanced before assembly.

FTO AUSTRALIA