Mivec in 1st gear

barfy · Post by **barfy** » Wed Aug 25, 2004 7:02 pm

Hi,

Ive notice when taking off in first gear going into the mivec range the actual kick in doesnt sound as obvious as it does in 2nd. Its so faint in 1st that im begining to think its not working at all ?!?!

Has anyone else notice that the mivec sound is softer in first or is it the same sound through out your gear range ??

RichardH · Post by **RichardH** » Wed Aug 25, 2004 10:10 pm

Yep, ditto.

Actually, with that downpipe thingy fitted, I can't hear that MIVEC sound at all half the time, in any gear!

Just one growly noise, hehe.

- Rich

Boris · Post by **Boris** » Wed Aug 25, 2004 11:35 pm

Same here.
However, with mine there is a slight change in sound in 1st...

Because I have a Miver controller I can change the point or remove Mivec altogether. When I remove Mivec, 1st gear, and the others are kinda more mettalicy sounding if u know what I mean... You can defenetly tell the difference...

So this therefore leads to that Mivec although very fainth, is actually kicking in, in 1st gear.

MADFTO · Post by **MADFTO** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 12:01 am

Technical explaination for this.

Engine doesn't have to work hard at all during 1st gear . . . in fact, you won't be putting out anywhere near max power in first gear as the gear ratio is that high, the engine doesn't have to work hard to get it up to speed.

Therefore, in addition to first gear being revved through quickly, it just doesn't work that hard (ie. less air is drawn into the engine) so you don't get the sound of the higher cams being that prominent.

Guni_GuGu · Post by **Guni_GuGu** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:37 am

I find, 1st gear to be the FTO's weakest link.. It just doesn't get enought torque, 2nd is good, 3rd is where it really pulls tru though. 3rd gear is my heaven for my baby.

MADFTO · Post by **MADFTO** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:44 am

*smiles* it's not first gear, it's the fact that's it's FWD, that's why it's hard to get a good launch =)

barfy · Post by **barfy** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 2:09 pm

find, 1st gear to be the FTO's weakest link.. It just doesn't get enought torque, 2nd is good, 3rd is where it really pulls tru though. 3rd gear is my heaven for my baby.

If im in 3rd doing 60 and floor in staying in third i find it quite sluggish, do do u mean this when its over a particular speed ??

Boris · Post by **Boris** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 2:15 pm

I think he meant 3rd, In MIVEC range...

I think 1st gear is ok, but getting a perfect launch is quite difficult, 2nd is the best, while 3rd is semi-ok...

Like in 3rd is good against most NA <V6 cars, but when comparing with the turbo's yeah... it aint too great...

Slither · Post by **Slither** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 6:32 pm

I gotta ask, when the hell r ya gunna b utilising mivec in 3rd gear?? I mean u have to b going pretty damn fast!!!

Guni_GuGu · Post by **Guni_GuGu** » Fri Aug 27, 2004 1:05 pm

Slither wrote:I gotta ask, when the hell r ya gunna b utilising mivec in 3rd gear?? I mean u have to b going pretty damn fast!!!

When I need to prove a point! OK!!

Don't make me take your ass out on 3rd gear too!! :p

With that said, I find, my launch, can be ok.. (I drive a manual) but in first gear, going into mivec, i find, is when I start to loose my power, and going into 2nd is getting better, but 3rd around mivec seems to be best for me.

How do ya'll normally drive, when trying to "prove a point"

Is it just, foot down, change at 8k? or how?

ruchi · Post by **ruchi** » Fri Aug 27, 2004 1:18 pm

3rd in a manual is closer to 2nd in a tiptronic, so this now makes more sense.

As a tiptronic owner the 2nd gear MIVEC range is my favourite

barfy · Post by **barfy** » Fri Aug 27, 2004 3:36 pm

As a tiptronic owner the 2nd gear MIVEC range is my favourite

Ill have to agree on that one !

FTOluv · Post by **FTOluv** » Fri Aug 27, 2004 5:42 pm

Ethan my son, by the way u drive theres no doubt in why u cant hit Mivec in 3rd

Slither · Post by **Slither** » Sat Aug 28, 2004 2:13 pm

While i may offend some people i have to say that speeding proves no point at all!! Draggin people off from the lights can b fun, but whats the point in breakin the speed limit to "prove a point"? IMO your drag ends when u hit the speed limit, goin any faster is a waste of time

Guni_GuGu · Post by **Guni_GuGu** » Sat Aug 28, 2004 8:17 pm

Slither wrote:While i may offend some people i have to say that speeding proves no point at all!! Draggin people off from the lights can b fun, but whats the point in breakin the speed limit to "prove a point"? IMO your drag ends when u hit the speed limit, goin any faster is a waste of time

I luv this rule, and try to stick to it as often as I can.

Ther · Post by **Ther** » Tue Aug 31, 2004 8:36 am

I agree about the "pointless speeding" but its always a bit of fun seeing the face of the other driver when their big piece of tin gets killed by my FTO...like the ford GT-P driver i took the other morning....

looii · Post by **looii** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 2:49 pm

hmmmzz i got a manual mivec, i rev it to 3, 3n a 1/2 then floor first gear until i nearly red line it and it producing a lot out (i reckon it will give a good launch), second gear same aswel;l (in the 90 k's) and third gear goes to 120..shittin myself when i reach 4 th gear cos its the end of the road!! ahahahahaha
Never really tested my car quater mile, but would love too ehehehe.
On top of that im normally a granny driver, so i be shittin myself every time inm doin 100kms ahahahaha

payaya · Post by **payaya** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 7:42 pm

MADFTO wrote:*smiles* it's not first gear, it's the fact that's it's FWD, that's why it's hard to get a good launch =)

i know in an auto, its nor because its FWD, its becuase the damn engines peak power and torque is right near redline!

The FTO has a really narrow usable powerband imo.

payaya · Post by **payaya** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 7:43 pm

Ther wrote:I agree about the "pointless speeding" but its always a bit of fun seeing the face of the other driver when their big piece of tin gets killed by my FTO...like the ford GT-P driver i took the other morning....

you beat the driver not the car

MADFTO · Post by **MADFTO** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:13 pm

Peak power and torque might be at the high end of the RPM band, but if the torque curve is relatively flat, which is what I've currently got, the usable powerband stretches out pretty far. =P