PHIL069's 95 FTO GPX

Sahin · Post by **Sahin** » Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:46 pm

PHIL069 wrote: More videos to come soon....

RIGHT NOW!!! :@

PHIL069 · Post by **PHIL069** » Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:41 pm

Technikhaus wrote:Like

Me too

Sahin wrote:Nice Phil! I think your car might be faster than mine after all lol

Technikhaus wrote:
Sahin wrote:
bass_twitch wrote:Dyno!?
Nah, housing estate

phunkydude wrote:0-100 in 7 secs
starting from 4 secs to 10secs

Well picked up, I never thought about acceleration time

Sahin wrote:
PHIL069 wrote: More videos to come soon....
RIGHT NOW!!! :@

Done

PHIL069 · Post by **PHIL069** » Sat Oct 20, 2012 12:18 am

Here follows a video of my second dyno run morning at TAFE.
Feel free to watch it full screen as it is HD and you can see the PIP gauges better.
Don't forget......Turn up the volume

FTO went heaps better after replacing timing belt, adjusting tappets and installing pod, although I didn't take my panel filter on the day to do a comparison.
Highest speed reached 265-270 kph

Highest kW reached 120 kW

(Teacher states in the video that the analog reading is correct and the digital reading is false)

Just for reference and ease of use I am re-posting my previous dyno videos.

Sahin · Post by **Sahin** » Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:53 am

Holy sh*t I wanna delimiter my car now lol 270kph

Kustom · Post by **Kustom** » Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:01 am

So jelly you get to dyno your car at tafe .... we get to do nothing fun at tafe at all..

phunkydude · Post by **phunkydude** » Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:10 am

^coz you're a sparky!

bass_twitch · Post by **bass_twitch** » Sat Oct 20, 2012 12:12 pm

"hear that induction noise"

I heartily agree! - pod filter - by far one of the BEST mods you can do for a 6a12 MIVEC - (not necessarily for power), but just for beautiful, beautiful noise!

ZFL45H1 · Post by **ZFL45H1** » Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:24 pm

Just a thought isn't it amazing him much wind resistance comes into it on the road I have push my fto beyond the standard limiter as it doesn't have one and was no where near like that even with a engine rebuild lol but that's still sick PHIL069 gives everyone an idea

ZFL45H1 · Post by **ZFL45H1** » Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:39 pm

PHIL069 · Post by **PHIL069** » Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:03 pm

ZFL45H1 wrote:Just a thought isn't it amazing him much wind resistance comes into it on the road

We discused this in the classroom at TAFE.
Most were saying that my FTO would never reach the same speeds on the road due to wind resistance.
Some students were trying to say that it is impossable for my FTO to reach 270km/h as that is the top speed of a modified V8, that's why we did the second run checking the dyno speedo against my in car speedo, that shut up the critics

Well....On the road I can get to 120km/h in second gear and 160km/h in third gear.....Same speeds as I got on the dyno.
So @ a certain RPM in a certain gear ratio you will get the same speeds no matter where you are doing it.
Obviously it will take longer to reach the RPM/speed on the road than on the dyno as you are pulling the weight of the car and pushing through the resistance of air.

If I had a long enough straight with no speed limit and I could reach 8000RPM in 5th gear I would reach 270km/h.
I can't see any reason that my FTO would not reach 8000RPM in 5th gear.

I need to find this piece of road and prove my theory.

......anyway I have proof that my FTO goes 270km/h so this fact can't be argued

ZFL45H1 wrote:I have push my fto beyond the standard limiter as it doesn't have one and was no where near like that even with a engine rebuild

I don't know what has been done to my FTO before I purchased it.
It could have been chipped. It could have been bored out and blue printed. It could have a lot higher compression ratio than stock. It could have different gear ratios installed.
All I know is what performance I get driving it/dyno-ing it.

ZFL45H1 wrote:

fraz91 · Post by **fraz91** » Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:30 pm

PHIL069 wrote:If I had a long enough straight with no speed limit and I could reach 8000RPM in 5th gear I would reach 270km/h.
I can't see any reason that my FTO would not reach 8000RPM in 5th gear.

I can. Unless you've got a 100km/h tailwind, it's going to be very VERY difficult for the engine to push your vehicle through the air at 270km/h. It will get to a point where the wind-resistance against the car will be greater than the power/torque being produced by the engine at that given RPM. Yes, you're putting out a decent amount of power at the wheels, but you need to work out how much drag is going to be produced at 270km/h. I don't have the calcs to do that, and you'd need to visit an F1/V8 supercar wind-tunnel at a minimum.

Also, while having the veilside wing is fantastic for downforce, it's not so great for top-speed. There's no doubt these FTO's have fantastic aerodynamics from factory, but when you're chasing top-speed you need to shave every last piece you can in order to get the car as streamlined as possible (although no-doubt you already know this

)

Don't get me wrong, I would love to see an FTO achieve 270km/h on a private track, but it would need to be the perfect conditions to be achievable.

PHIL069 · Post by **PHIL069** » Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:35 pm

So you are saying that my engine in 5th gear would not reach 8000RPM on the road. That it would peak out say at about 5000-7000RPM lowering my top speed in the process?

fraz91 · Post by **fraz91** » Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:42 pm

PHIL069 wrote:So you are saying that my engine in 5th gear would not reach 8000RPM on the road. That it would peak out say at about 5000-7000RPM lowering my top speed in the process?

Basically, it lowers your achievable top-speed on-road rather than the actual top-speed of the car on a dyno. Remember, Power = (Torque x RPM) / 5252. Therefore at 5252rpm, your engine's power and torque outputs are identical (say around 90kw/90Nm). As you continue to increase speed and rpm, the torque decreases. The only reason the power continues to increase is because the torque figure drops at a slower rate than the rpm increase, until you hit max-power of course (around 6500rpm from memory?). Once you've hit max-power, you're on the decline of both power/torque, so really it's got bugger-all chance of making it past that if it barely makes it there in the first place.

I hate to be a damper, but you can't argue with physics.

Unless...

PHIL069 · Post by **PHIL069** » Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:51 pm

So in reality it's like when the brake is applied on the dyno, RPM decreases and speed decreases proportionally.

Wind resistance being the dyno's brake.

Well, on the moon my FTO reaches 8000RPM in 5th gear and goes 270km/h

(....and on the dyno)

I'm happy with that

ebmp19 · Post by **ebmp19** » Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:56 pm

PHIL069 wrote:So in reality it's like when the brake is applied on the dyno, RPM decreases and speed decreases proportionally.

Wind resistance being the dyno's brake.

Well, on the moon my FTO reaches 8000RPM in 5th gear and goes 270km/h (....and on the dyno)

I'm happy with that

Your FTO wouldn't run on the moon for the same reason it would go faster

PHIL069 · Post by **PHIL069** » Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:58 pm

ebmp19 wrote:Your FTO wouldn't run on the moon for the same reason it would go faster

I have proof; on the dyno and on the moon

MoonFTO01.jpg

Sahin · Post by **Sahin** » Sun Oct 21, 2012 10:18 pm

PHIL069 wrote:So in reality it's like when the brake is applied on the dyno, RPM decreases and speed decreases proportionally.

Wind resistance being the dyno's brake.

Well, on the moon my FTO reaches 8000RPM in 5th gear and goes 270km/h (....and on the dyno)

I'm happy with that

it would only reach 269

PHIL069 · Post by **PHIL069** » Sun Oct 21, 2012 10:20 pm

Sahin wrote:it would only reach 269

I just checked my thread and noticed that I had reached......
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Sahin · Post by **Sahin** » Sun Oct 21, 2012 10:26 pm

check my thread in a sec i need your photoshop skills

PHIL069 · Post by **PHIL069** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:22 pm

Sahin wrote:check my thread in a sec i need your photoshop skills

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