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Flashing N !!! :(

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:31 pm
by King hit kiz
Hey guys was wondering if anyone could help me ???

I don't have any tools to check the code but i'll explain what happens it drives fine through town and locally but when i get on the highway and its not all the time it will be in fourth gear on 90 just sitting there and then suddenly the revs go up and crunches into third gear and stays their ?????

Also stepper motor was replaced last week and that's stop cold start stalling :)

Someone help please !!!!

Re: Flashing N !!! :(

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:35 pm
by Daniel2019
Limp mode. Flashes are in codes. Check here http://ftoaustralia.com/v3/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=14667

Re: Flashing N !!! :(

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:36 pm
by King hit kiz
yeah i can't get the code though ? have no tool :/

And it's only 1 flash per second !!!!

Re: Flashing N !!! :(

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:36 pm
by Daniel2019
Automatic transmission - Chassis manual section 23

With a flashing N lamp there are two possibilities of what it could be.

If it flashes at 1Hz, once a second, then it will be either,

Input speed sensor
Output speed sensor
Solenoid valve
Out of phase at shift points
A/T control relay system

If it flashes at 2Hz, twice per second, the ATF temperature is too high and you should stop to allow it to cool down.

11, 12 and 14 all relate to Throttle position sensor system (Vehicles without TCL) and Accelerator pedal position sensor system (Vehicles with TCL)

Code
11 Short circuit
12 Open circuit
14 Sensor maladjustment
15 Oil temp sensor system Open circuit
21 Crank angle sensor system Open circuit
22 Input shaft speed sensor Open/Closed circuit
23 Output shaft speed sensor Open/Closed circuit
26 Stop lamp switch system Short circuit
31 Low and reverse solenoid valve system Open/Closed circuit
32 Under drive solenoid valve system Open/Closed circuit
33 Second solenoid valve system Open/Closed circuit
34 Overdrive solenoid valve system Open/Closed circuit
35 Reduction solenoid valve system Open/Closed circuit
36 Damper control clutch solenoid valve system Open/Closed circuit
41 1st gear ratio does not meet specification
42 2nd gear ratio does not meet specification
43 3rd gear ratio does not meet specification
44 4th gear ratio does not meet specification
45 5th gear ratio does not meet specification
46 Reverse gear ratio does not meet specification
51 Abnormal communication with Engine ECU or Abnormal communication with TCT ECU
52 Damper control clutch solenoid valve system Defective system
54 A/T control relay system Short circuit to earth/ open circuit
56 N range lamp systems Short circuit to earth
71 Malfunction of A/T ECU

Re: Flashing N !!! :(

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:37 pm
by Daniel2019
King hit kiz wrote:yeah i can't get the code though ? have no tool :/

And it's only 1 flash per second !!!!
Input speed sensor
Output speed sensor
Solenoid valve
Out of phase at shift points
A/T control relay system

Re: Flashing N !!! :(

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:38 pm
by silverGPX
OUTPUT SENSOR

f**k sake, that is like the 4th time i've told you.

Re: Flashing N !!! :(

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:38 pm
by King hit kiz
So how do i know what one ????? :S what one does it sound like ??? and are these parts easy to get ?????

Re: Flashing N !!! :(

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:39 pm
by Vectose
You don't need any tools to check for codes, just a piece of wire as stated in the guide.

Re: Flashing N !!! :(

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:39 pm
by King hit kiz
How do you know it's that ????????? and how much are they ?????

and is it easy to DIY like the stepper motor, and clam down i'm sorry i sound annoying or whatever but i'm just a newbie to this :/

Re: Flashing N !!! :(

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:41 pm
by Vectose
Sounds like a case of :geny:

:lol:

Re: Flashing N !!! :(

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:45 pm
by silverGPX
I said get one of dstocks the last time.

Its located underneath the battery tray.

Heres a guide.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/20771266/MITS ... utostyling

-Under output sensor, not input sensor.


If its not it, ill pay for it if it doesnt work. im that sure its the problem.

Re: Flashing N !!! :(

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:50 pm
by PHIL069
silverGPX wrote:I said get one of dstocks the last time.

Its located underneath the battery tray.

Heres a guide.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/20771266/MITS ... utostyling

-Under output sensor, not input sensor.


If its not it, ill pay for it if it doesnt work. im that sure its the problem.
Spoken like a Queensland Coordinator :cheeky:

Flashing N !!! :(

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:01 pm
by ZFL45H1
Better idea go see PHIL069 he can get his hands on an awesome ecu reader hahaha

Re: Flashing N !!! :(

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:25 pm
by dstocks
Input and output speed sensors come in a 3 pin or a 4 pin version. I have some 2nd hand 3 pin ones. I can also get both new if need be. From memory new ones are around $70 each.

Re: Flashing N !!! :(

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:53 pm
by King hit kiz
Well hopefully its 3 pin and i can get it this saturday when i come down to swap the door over (:

Re: Flashing N !!! :(

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:34 am
by King hit kiz
I think it's a four pin :/

Here's a pic, i will need one asap !!! so i can sell and i don't want to rip someone off !!!! :)

I am going to Sydney tomorrow if someone has on i'll be up there ? :)

Re: Flashing N !!! :(

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:02 pm
by payaya
They are $80 new from Mitsubishi.

Re: Flashing N !!! :(

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:03 pm
by payaya
silverGPX wrote:OUTPUT SENSOR

f**k sake, that is like the 4th time i've told you.
How do you know its the output sensor from a 1hz per second flash???

Re: Flashing N !!! :(

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:05 pm
by King hit kiz
Serious ??????? where at ???

DETAILS !!!! It's getting worse it is constantly going to safe mode with eratic shunts chaging gear :/ and sometimes really high reving before gear change :|

Re: Flashing N !!! :(

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:07 pm
by PHIL069
silverGPX wrote:output sensor, not input sensor.
If its not it, ill pay for it if it doesnt work. im that sure its the problem.
payaya wrote:
silverGPX wrote:OUTPUT SENSOR
f**k sake, that is like the 4th time i've told you.
How do you know its the output sensor from a 1hz per second flash???
Doesn't matter, if it's not King Hit gets it for free anyway :twisted: