DYNO RUN RESULTS!
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Other mods are just a HKS filter, de-cat pipe & Kakimoto cat-back exhaust.
I have a Mivec controller also but that was on standard settings.
I also have the Veilside bodykit which induces quite a bit of drag...
I dont have anything in my boot, no spare, no install of any kind but I understand the petrol differences over here make quite a difference?
I have a Mivec controller also but that was on standard settings.
I also have the Veilside bodykit which induces quite a bit of drag...
I dont have anything in my boot, no spare, no install of any kind but I understand the petrol differences over here make quite a difference?
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Ah it's the same over here, I was using 98 RON at the time, you can get 100 RON - alledgedly - but I've never tried it. I just read on another 1/4 mile post on this forum somebody said your petrol wasn't up to scratch which would explain why average times seem to be a little quicker over here.
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If I can find it =)
If I remember correctly, I didn't have any noticable change in torque. I believe my curve was relatively flat, tarting to taper downwards after the mivec point.
If I can find it, I'll scan and upload it.
Something tells me that a camshaft upgrade is in order for at least the MIVEC lobes.
but then again I'm going to take a long time to get to that =)
If I remember correctly, I didn't have any noticable change in torque. I believe my curve was relatively flat, tarting to taper downwards after the mivec point.
If I can find it, I'll scan and upload it.
Something tells me that a camshaft upgrade is in order for at least the MIVEC lobes.
but then again I'm going to take a long time to get to that =)
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ok i can confirm that my dip at mivec change point is gone! (thanks to front pipe)
and as madfto's results my torque dipped slight at that point
and in answer the to the octane boost petrol additive question the results below speak for themselves
of course im not gonna compare my results to anyone except the other fto's on that same day, gotta mention though that my engine oil tank was overfilled, so my readings could definitely improve once this is rectified
im hoping to get sub 15 1/4 mile time one day, that will mean more than this dyno chart
before octane boost

after octane boost

and as madfto's results my torque dipped slight at that point
and in answer the to the octane boost petrol additive question the results below speak for themselves
of course im not gonna compare my results to anyone except the other fto's on that same day, gotta mention though that my engine oil tank was overfilled, so my readings could definitely improve once this is rectified
im hoping to get sub 15 1/4 mile time one day, that will mean more than this dyno chart
before octane boost

after octane boost

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Looking at all those graphs, I reckon they only plot up to around 6,500-7,000rpm (or whatever 180km/h is in 3rd gear). Those power curve shapes look like they stop "early". Is that correct?
If so, your peak power isn't really the peak. That might explain a few things... like why your power results are consistently around 102-105kw, whereas my results were around 120kw (161bhp atw). Your graphs just didn't go far enough, thanks to the speed limiter in the chosen gear.
Did anyone talk to the person doing the testing, and find out the peak rpm he saw? The bloke that did mine commented that the power figure was "still going up" when the 8,000rpm rev limiter was reached, hehe. Gotta love those little MIVEC powerplants.
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If so, your peak power isn't really the peak. That might explain a few things... like why your power results are consistently around 102-105kw, whereas my results were around 120kw (161bhp atw). Your graphs just didn't go far enough, thanks to the speed limiter in the chosen gear.
Did anyone talk to the person doing the testing, and find out the peak rpm he saw? The bloke that did mine commented that the power figure was "still going up" when the 8,000rpm rev limiter was reached, hehe. Gotta love those little MIVEC powerplants.

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same here, if you look at my dynograph the line keeps climbing towards the 8000rpm redline, although power delivery isn't as smooth beyond the MIVEC cutover point...RichardH wrote:The bloke that did mine commented that the power figure was "still going up" when the 8,000rpm rev limiter was reached, hehe. Gotta love those little MIVEC powerplants.
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we didnt confirm what rpm it reached, or whether the rev limiter or speed limiter was hit
but i think the scale on the right is for torque in N, and not engine rpm
i wish they had let us watch on the side to keep an eye on the tacho and speedo... when i got it doen at ricol they let us do that...
maybe we should have tested in 2nd gear so that speed limiter isnt touched... then again looks like adam's didnt reach the 180, but my suspicion is that his chart is a little out of scale... or his gear ratio is different? so it hit the rev limiter way before 180.. or some other variable....
i'll ring UAS and see if they remember
but i think the scale on the right is for torque in N, and not engine rpm
i wish they had let us watch on the side to keep an eye on the tacho and speedo... when i got it doen at ricol they let us do that...
maybe we should have tested in 2nd gear so that speed limiter isnt touched... then again looks like adam's didnt reach the 180, but my suspicion is that his chart is a little out of scale... or his gear ratio is different? so it hit the rev limiter way before 180.. or some other variable....
i'll ring UAS and see if they remember
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well.. just spoke to UAS (not directly with the mechanic who ran the test),
they ran the tests in 4th (manuals) and 3rd (autos), and most of them reached the speed limiter. hence our results may not be indicitive of the real peak power of our cars.
i dont know which cars had the speed de-limited though... does safc ii do that? coz the guy with the most gains from CAI kit had that.
oh and i remember now at Ricol, they let us sit in the passenger seat...
they ran the tests in 4th (manuals) and 3rd (autos), and most of them reached the speed limiter. hence our results may not be indicitive of the real peak power of our cars.
i dont know which cars had the speed de-limited though... does safc ii do that? coz the guy with the most gains from CAI kit had that.
oh and i remember now at Ricol, they let us sit in the passenger seat...
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well that was one gear too high, for both models, to be able to test the full rev-range.G1 wrote:they ran the tests in 4th (manuals) and 3rd (autos)
These graphs show approximately the first 85% of the FTO's rev range but thanks to the speed limiter kicking in, miss the last 15% which includes the data a lot of you were after - the peak power output!

Peak Power: 7,500-7,700rpm
Rev Limiter: 8,200rpm
Speed Limiter 180kmh (tip = 3rd gear @ a bit over 7,200rpm) (manual = 4th gear @ a bit under 7,000rpm)
It's a pity that no one picked up on this on the day, so we could see the actual peak output from your engines and a full rev-range graph.

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