Plans for a RWD FTO

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Plans for a RWD FTO

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RWD FTO, I know most of the people here probably thinks this is far fetched, I sorta too, but any thing can be done if your willing to do it and have a bit of $$$.

I have been looking at doing a RWD be cause it hasn't been done yet, and there is probably 2 ways in getting a RWD FTO:

1: having it as a FR, having the engine at the front and getting the rear wheels to drive, this would mean that I would have to rotate the engine 90 degrees so that the crank will face towards the rear, new engine mounts, find a gearbox that will mount up with the engine, custom bell-housing, make a whole new transmission tunnel, cross member for the gearbox, drive shaft, diff, a whole new rear suspenion...and so on.

2: having it as a MR, having the engine mounted in the middle of the car or basically in between the front and rear wheels and the rear wheels will drive the car...I would have to relocate the engine and gearbox some where between the rearseats and boot, relocate fuel tank to the front(under the bonnet), make crossmembers for the engine and gearbox, firewall for the rear, a whole new rear suspenion, engine mounts...and so on.

Here is a few pic of a Honda CRX converted in to a MR, it was done by Top Fuel in japan, they relocated the engine and gearbox in the rear, turbo'd the motor, put a racing fuel tank in the front and that, but the main thing it is a rear wheel drive.

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Not much under the bonnet except for a fuel tank and master cylinder etc.
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The turbo'd motor in the rear.
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I reacon going MR would be a better option because it would be more balanced, with the design of the car being pretty short, making it a FR would make it a bit unbalanced and more difficult to drive with out spining out, but a lot needs to be looking into doing this from a design point of view.
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:lol: haha goodluck trying to get it street legal :lol:
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I'm pretty handy with a spanner, I could do it for you. Cost you a bit though, bout 2-300 hundred bucks maybe. You don't mind the engine just sitting on your back seat do you? You don't really need proper mounts if you use the seatbelts :)
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Post by Bennoz »

Ooooh, I havent seen this much turbo / rwd whoring since Nacho first signed up!

Recommend you do a search on this topic Bigpitty as it has been covered numerous time.

Personally I reckon a rear wheel would be wicked, but the chassis design would have to be modified something chronic on a car that was designed for an East - West motor. More so than just wacking in a cross member I'd say.

But - as they say, with enough $$$ you can do anything
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It'd be interesting to see the chassis difference between a EVO from the 95 period and a FTO...cos they're always saying how similar the lancer suspension components are, and you can certainly convert a FWD lancer to AWD using the evo's running gear 8O doubt itd be road legal though if you haev to cut chassis beams up.
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SG wrote:It'd be interesting to see the chassis difference between a EVO from the 95 period and a FTO...cos they're always saying how similar the lancer suspension components are, and you can certainly convert a FWD lancer to AWD using the evo's running gear 8O doubt itd be road legal though if you haev to cut chassis beams up.
Suspension & chassis maybe similar but not the floorplan :wink:
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yeah but neither are the FWD lancers....

u'd still be cutting the floor, moving the fuel tank etc & spare tire but you just might not have to move or cut into the chassis, which is the thing i think that makes it not very road legal, anymore. I'm thinkin if the chassis are the same it wouldnt be such a impossbile job compared to normal AWD conversions......

course im probly talkin crap ;)
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It would be easier and probably a lot cheaper to get an evo and make it look like an FTO....

Or an MR2 if you want the MR thing.
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SG wrote:It'd be interesting to see the chassis difference between a EVO from the 95 period and a FTO...cos they're always saying how similar the lancer suspension components are, and you can certainly convert a FWD lancer to AWD using the evo's running gear 8O doubt itd be road legal though if you haev to cut chassis beams up.
It can be engineered
In fact, for 22K it is drive in drive out with everything fitted and engineered


FTO and lancer are the same car

You guys are just glorified lancer drivers :)
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22k, i don't think it would be happening, getting something done by someone else usually cost a lot, If i was going to do this project I would do it myself, save lot of money and I would know that the job was done well.
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http://stansdomain.555mb.com/lancerProject.html
this guy did the lancer to evo conversion by hand @ home and documented it all if u wanna try it out yourself
took him awhile by the looks of it... maybe thats where the big cost of getting someone else to do it is..
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SG wrote:http://stansdomain.555mb.com/lancerProject.html
this guy did the lancer to evo conversion by hand @ home and documented it all if u wanna try it out yourself
took him awhile by the looks of it... maybe thats where the big cost of getting someone else to do it is..

so who wants to help?
http://www.carsales.com.au/please/carsales ... =(182,6,2)
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Post by payaya »

i dont really see the point?? Maybe on a race track it couldnt gain you a bit, but considering the FTO is so well balanced is there any need? Maybe if a whole heap of power was produced by the engine?

Well how many RWD Mitsubishis are there???
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payaya wrote:
Well how many RWD Mitsubishis are there???
Thats a really good question.....I can only really think of one off the top of my head - the Starion. And the Sigma.

But a quick search reveals:

GA-GD Galant, LA-LC Lancer, GJ-GH Sigma & Scorpion. Not counting the ute's.
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no one wants to do the lancer thing with me?
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Post by bigpitty1 »

I would help you but I live in Mackay and I'm like the only person with a FTO here.
should be a good project.
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Post by fto617 »

hmm...why bother with RWD or MR
when u can just buy an EVO!!!
i bought a evo
i only bought it cos i was about to spend 15k on turboing my fto
but after thinking it might die like 3years or less or soemthing
i just got out and got a genuine TURBO car that came with bonus AWD system :twisted:
but you know what...i still like the fto better in terms of styling
turns a lot more cicks heads...
my current new evo...
speed department i can lure ferrari to drag easy
but looks department gets the wrong attention from those try hard rexies and skylines and even a turbo accord!...
waste of my petrol:(
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how'd it go with the ferrari
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Post by Nacho »

Did someone mention my name?

If you look at the 6A13 which runs an AWD drivetrain, the engine didn't have to be rotated at all.

As a matter of fact, it can be done, it has been done, and will be done......on earth as it is in heaven.

The only thing that's prevent me to get on top of this job is time............to look for a bloody automotive engineer. If I don't work closely with one, the only place I can drive this FTO is on a race track.

As I said before, if anyone here can recommend one then I can progress to the next stage.
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Post by fto617 »

honestly i dont think the ferrari floored it but he just gave it a go
we wer eside by side with me launching at 5.5k and redlining 1st, 2nd, 3rd
i tell u evo revs so quickly that at first u wont even notice its already redline!!!
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